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Thunderbird - missing emails

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I have my email account set up on my phone (Android) and on Thunderbird. Both are set up the same way receiving emails via POP Mail server. Messages are left on the server until I delete them. Certain messages appear on my phone but never appear in Thunderbird. I do not have any spam filters set up on Thunderbird. Junk settings are set such that messages from people in my personal address book are not treated as junk, and yet they are also amongst those that do not appear. Junk messages, in any case, are not moved from my mail folder.

Furthermore if I try to forward the missing messages from my phone (where they appear) to myself again, they will still not appear in Thunderbird.

Why cannot I not see those (missing) messages?

I have my email account set up on my phone (Android) and on Thunderbird. Both are set up the same way receiving emails via POP Mail server. Messages are left on the server until I delete them. Certain messages appear on my phone but never appear in Thunderbird. I do not have any spam filters set up on Thunderbird. Junk settings are set such that messages from people in my personal address book are not treated as junk, and yet they are also amongst those that do not appear. Junk messages, in any case, are not moved from my mail folder. Furthermore if I try to forward the missing messages from my phone (where they appear) to myself again, they will still not appear in Thunderbird. Why cannot I not see those (missing) messages?

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If messages are appearing in phone, but not thunderbird, I suggest exploring the settings on the phone.

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Both are the same except I see that I have used different ports. In any case, I don't see why that would mean that emails sent from my phone do not always turn up on Thunderbird. Note: it's not all emails, it's only some - and not all necessarily with the same characteristics i.e. it is not all emails from one person or anything obvious like that.

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Additional information. If I send the missing email to a different account (I have a gmail account as well), it arrives although the same email will not arrive if I send it to my main account. Now here is the oddity: if I then try to copy the email from my Thunderbird gmail account to my Thunderbird main account (right click on email, select Copy To |account name|Inbox|Inbox) it does not not copy across. If I try to move it to my main inbox, it gets deleted from my gmail inbox but does not appear in my main account inbox.

It is almost as if there is a junk filter or something deleting the message, except there are no filters set up on any account.

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malcolm30 said

Both are the same except I see that I have used different ports. In any case, I don't see why that would mean that emails sent from my phone do not always turn up on Thunderbird. Note: it's not all emails, it's only some - and not all necessarily with the same characteristics i.e. it is not all emails from one person or anything obvious like that.

There is this odd thing, where mail that is downloaded to pop is considered delivered by some providers and not included in subsequent pop sessions from another device or mail clients. Like this settings in Google mail.

Then there are the varying ideas about SPAM. In the POP mail specification there is only a mail drop. No folders at all. In practice this is becoming more the inbox folder rather than the original "mail drop" with the effect that the ubiquitous moving of email to spam folders leaves those mails unavailable for POP download.

Trying to understand what the special ideal with a specific mail provider and POP is not as straight forward as it could be, but spam filtering, leaving millions of emails on IMAP servers and a general demand to be a packrat of every email ever sent to a mail account means providers are becoming ever more creative in "encouraging" add driven webmail. You may even find that your provide is moving certain "important" mails to their own folder. Leaving them out of the pop download as a result. I faced this with the Google "Important" folder messing up POP downloads for message categorized as such.

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If the account in question is a gmail POP account, you have to enable recent mode in order to download with multiple mail clients.

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Gmail

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