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Thunderbird Email Synching Issue - Replying to email sources data from unrelated, deleted emails. Hosting Comcast dot net
Hello,
My boss, (small family business) insists on using Thunderbird for the business. He sends and receives hundreds of emails every day. Often times has 20+ email tabs open at the same time. It's become such a problem that I have purchase larger SSD drive because he was always running out of storage space on his PC. His Thunderbird file is currently over 12 gig.
The main issue is: He will have several emails open and will start to reply to a customer. When he hits reply, the body of the email references data from an really OLD previous email that was either archived or deleted. Most of the time these are emails that were previously deleted. Then he goes back to his Inbox to try to find the original message and it cannot be found and is missing. He then finds the original email on his iPhone Inbox (Same Email Account - IMAPED to his phone) then forwards it to himself, in order to obtain the original contents of the message again. Sometimes the reply box has data from multiple old emails! It's hard to explain.
This goes on and on and he's driving me nuts, as I'm the local "Mr. IT Fix it." for the company. Although, I have no formal degree or training in such things. My background is in Accounting. LOL
From reading other forums, this appears to be either an IMAP Indexing or Email Deletion Retention policy issue? But it's just really beyond me!
Both myself and a family friend who actually has IT support exp. have told him to stop using Thunderbird for Enterprise use, and migrate to a more appropriate application. But he doesn't want to have to learn anything new or complicated.
Any thoughts, suggestions, other places where I can find a possible solution?
One other thought: This issue does goes go away (albeit Temporary) when I clear his system cache and Force ALL Thunderbird folders to Compact. Thank you!
If the above data is too vague, I can try to provide steps to replicate and screenshots on the next time this happens. Which is often. However, it is almost impossible to replicate on demand.
Additionally - I've read in other forums of similar issues where they were related to indexing and IMAP syncing across multiple devices. One person commented - that it was a deletion retention failure policy within Thunderbird. Something to the effect of, Thunderbird never really deletes emails when you press delete on the desktop application. The email is marked for deletion but all of the email headers and data is still stored in the active cache, or something like that. - And apparently, there is a lag in time that the server or servers update a deletion request if the email is deleted from another app. His primary email host is Comcast.net. So, he's using Comcast Webmail, Thunderbird Desktop, and iPhone 13 mail app. via IMAP, all for the same account that has about 10+gig of stored emails. Oh, he currently has threads turned off by request. Storage cache is currently set to 650mb.
Any help, suggestions or solutions are greatly appreciated. If you have any areas that need clarifying, I would be happy to take screen shots or provide additional data in order to find a valid resolution, as he's not interested in migrating to Outlook or any other Enterprise application.
Thank you!
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I do not envy you in this, as you will always be the scapegoat. A few suggestions: - I suggest compacting daily, not automatically, but set for manual. That ensure someone sees it. - I also suggest having a backup policy and administer to it. This is the business. The discussion forces the owner to either take ownership of the data, or put all faith in Comcast that nothing will ever be lost. The policy should be in writing and discussed and understood. One option might be a separate, local server that backs up everything on the fly. This is the business. Keep in front of management the problem that will happen if email is lost. - I suggest you consider an archive policy to preserve old, non-current, messages. That may be downloading and archiving to a cloud server. For example, a conversation with a customer form 1995 doesn't need to be instantly accessible. - I also suggest, although some here will disagree, to set the update feature OFF for thunderbird. This is a business and should not be susceptible to automatic software upgrades. It just takes one update that doesn't work (or is interrupted by an antivirus) to have you pulling your hair for hours or more. - good luck.