Thunderbird saves partial drafts - even when I SAVE the whole message

I'm a writer. In keeping with the Law of Primacy, my first work is usually my best work (after a few tweaks). I recently had to write an email response to someone for the… (read more)

I'm a writer. In keeping with the Law of Primacy, my first work is usually my best work (after a few tweaks). I recently had to write an email response to someone for the Darling Bride and me.

I waxed poetic and wrote an incredibly diplomatic response to a most unpleasant situation. After completing the entire message down to our signatures, I selected "File" and "Save" to make sure it was all saved in the Drafts folder. That way, I could open it on another device and read the draft to her.

Imagine my shock when I opened it, only to find that the draft stopped in the middle of a word - while I was correcting a typo - and didn't save anything after that! Frantic, I went back to the computer I used to write it, hoping the entire email was at least saved locally. Nope! The draft stopped in the middle of the message, even though I had saved the entire thing.

Perhaps this isn't high priority for a lot of users... but for those few of us, it's a critical, fatal flaw that has to be resolved. I can't even imagine that I did anything wrong: I saved the message before exiting; and opened to find half of it missing. I love the idea of Thunderbird and its privacy features, compared with the data-mining big names. But I can't afford to lose data! This was a personal response, thankfully, and not related to my work as a writer and author. However, I have to trust my email client with the data I save to it. Any hints to prevent this are greatly appreciated.

Asked by G. Lamar Wilkie 22 hours ago

Last reply by G. Lamar Wilkie 8 minutes ago

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Thunderbird "Title Bar" and "send" button in "ToolBar"

I'm on MacOS Monterey 12.7.5 with Thunderbird 115.12.2 (64-bit). I noticed two problems. First, the message Window cannot be moved to a different location. And second, th… (read more)

I'm on MacOS Monterey 12.7.5 with Thunderbird 115.12.2 (64-bit). I noticed two problems. First, the message Window cannot be moved to a different location. And second, the "ToolBar" with the "send" button is missing in the message window. I can't recall what I did to cause these two problems. Question: Is there a fix for my problem? Any help is appreciated. Thanks. Roger

Asked by T R Kiang 3 hours ago

Answered by T R Kiang 11 minutes ago

Thunderbird - missing emails

I have my email account set up on my phone (Android) and on Thunderbird. Both are set up the same way receiving emails via POP Mail server. Messages are left on the se… (read more)

I have my email account set up on my phone (Android) and on Thunderbird. Both are set up the same way receiving emails via POP Mail server. Messages are left on the server until I delete them. Certain messages appear on my phone but never appear in Thunderbird. I do not have any spam filters set up on Thunderbird. Junk settings are set such that messages from people in my personal address book are not treated as junk, and yet they are also amongst those that do not appear. Junk messages, in any case, are not moved from my mail folder.

Furthermore if I try to forward the missing messages from my phone (where they appear) to myself again, they will still not appear in Thunderbird.

Why cannot I not see those (missing) messages?

Asked by malcolm30 1 hour ago

Last reply by malcolm30 12 minutes ago

Cannot configure AOL email account in Thunderbird

I am having trouble manually configuring an AOL email account (username@verizon.net). AOL's instructions say to manually configure the account. I tried to do that twice, … (read more)

I am having trouble manually configuring an AOL email account (username@verizon.net). AOL's instructions say to manually configure the account. I tried to do that twice, once with IMAP and the other with POP.

Now, I have two email folders in Thunderbird that I cannot use. They are both empty because I get a message box that says "Login to server imap.aol.com with username@verizon.net failed." when I try to use them. When I use the same login credentials to login to the website mail.aol.com, they work.

I have to contact AOL as to why when I try to access the account with an email client (Thunderbird and Outlook) I'm getting password errors. In the meantime, how do I delete the two email folders created incorrectly in Thunderbird?

Thanks for your help.

Asked by jarosenquist 23 hours ago

Last reply by jarosenquist 16 minutes ago

OAuth2 is REQUIRED now for MS Outlook email, now I get prompts for passwords

I got an email from Microsoft saying my Live.com or Outlook.com email accounts won't be supported in Thunderbird UNLESS I change the settings to OAuth2 in incoming and o… (read more)

I got an email from Microsoft saying my Live.com or Outlook.com email accounts won't be supported in Thunderbird UNLESS I change the settings to OAuth2 in incoming and outgoing server settings.

I even REMOVED the email account and re-added it making sure it was OAuth2.

But for my live.com & outlook.com email accounts I continually get prompts for passwords from Thunderbird. Sometimes I can't even click the RED X at the upper right to shut the prompt down. I just happens over and over until I give it what it wants.

I am tempted to shut down all Microsoft email accounts and switch to Gmail.

I have Thunderbird version 115.12.2 (64-bit) I used Windows 11 23H2 build 22631.3810 Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22700.1020.0

Any idea how to stop these prompts?

I like Thunderbird much more than any other email program I have ever used, and would like to keep it

Asked by nicholasb55 4 hours ago

Last reply by nicholasb55 27 minutes ago

S/MIME E2EE Settings Break on Thunderbird Restart

When I restart Mozilla Thunderbird, my S/MIME certificate preferences under Account Settings seem to break. When I initially select a certificate, both the common name/c… (read more)

When I restart Mozilla Thunderbird, my S/MIME certificate preferences under Account Settings seem to break.

When I initially select a certificate, both the common name/certificate name and the certificate fingerprint appear in the interface (see Working Settings.png). However, after restarting Thunderbird, only the common name/certificate name appears in the interface, and I cannot use S/MIME to sign messages (see Broken Settings.png). When I attempt to do so, I receive the following error message:

Send Message Error Sending of the message failed. You specified that this message should be digitally signed, but the application either failed to find the signing certificate specified in your Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings, or the certificate has expired.

To be clear, Thunderbird has no problem finding and using the certificate right after I set it—the problem only appears when I restart Thunderbird and the appearance of the certificate in the settings changes. The certificate does not expire until April 2025, so this is not the issue. The issue also occurs with another account using a different certificate that is also unexpired.

I am using Thunderbird 115.12.2 (64-bit ESR) on MacOS with Apple Silicon.

Asked by Ben 1 week ago

Last reply by Ben 39 minutes ago

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Microsoft ending support for third-party email apps from 16 September

Hi, I've received the email below from Microsoft today. I have 15 email accounts linked to Thunderbird mail and use up to 5 of them daily. Sometimes 'instant' communicat… (read more)

Hi, I've received the email below from Microsoft today.

I have 15 email accounts linked to Thunderbird mail and use up to 5 of them daily. Sometimes 'instant' communications on one or more of my accounts can be important.

Will Thunderbird mail still function in the same way from 16th September?

I apologise if this question has been answered somewhere else. I searched but could not find it.


"The safety and security of your information is top priority for Microsoft. To help keep your account secure, Microsoft will no longer support the use of third-party email and calendar apps which ask you to sign in with only your Microsoft Account username and password. To keep you safe you will need to use a mail or calendar app which supports Microsoft’s modern authentication methods. If you do not act, your third-party email apps will no longer be able to access your Outlook.com, Hotmail or Live.com email address on September 16th.

What do you need to do?

If you are receiving this email, you are currently using an email or calendar app that uses a less secure authentication method to connect to your Outlook.com email account. You will need to upgrade your third-party mail and calendar app to a version which supports modern authentication methods.

Microsoft provides free versions of Outlook for your PC, Mac, iOS, and Android devices which can be easily downloaded and connect to your email account. Using an updated version of an Outlook application will ensure you are connecting in the most secure way.

How can you set up your Gmail, Apple Mail, or other third-party mail application?

Various non-Microsoft applications will have their own steps for connecting to your Outlook.com email account using modern authentication methods. See our help article - Modern Authentication Methods now needed to continue syncing Outlook Email in non-Microsoft email apps. However, you may need to contact the creators of those applications to provide you with instructions. In many cases, simply removing and re-adding your account with the latest version of that application will configure it to use modern authentication methods."

Asked by chattome 1 week ago

Answered by sfhowes 23 hours ago

Cannot close messages

Hey, I recently downloaded Thunderbird because my mail service prodiver has added ads into the desktop application. Migrating everything over was a piece of cake, but I'… (read more)

Hey,

I recently downloaded Thunderbird because my mail service prodiver has added ads into the desktop application. Migrating everything over was a piece of cake, but I'm running into two issues now: 1) When I open thunderbird, the space to the right of the message column is filled with a request to donate money. I would like for that place to be blank when I'm not displaying an email there. 2) Once I have opened an email, I cannot close it again. I can replace it with a different email, but only way to have all of them closed is to close Thunderbird entirely and start it up again.

In the previous application, I could close emails by hitting ESC on my keyboard. Is there a way to have this functionality in thunderbird too?

Thanks in advance for your efforts!

Asked by flip-tijburg 1 day ago

Last reply by david 1 hour ago

Cannot add OAuth2 Google calendar on custom domain

I have a custom domain (me@mydomain.com) with email / contacts / calendar hosted by Google Workspace. I initially managed to add both the email and calendar account to Th… (read more)

I have a custom domain (me@mydomain.com) with email / contacts / calendar hosted by Google Workspace. I initially managed to add both the email and calendar account to Thunderbird but recently the calendar stopped syncing.

I tried to fix the problem by first removing the calendar account. This did not work because the 'Create New Calendar' -> 'On the Network' account wizard does not prompt me for the Google OAuth2 login page but just asks me for a password and fails. I tried to supply several 'Location:' URLs like gmail.com, calendar/accounts.google.com but none lead to the Google OAuth2 page.

Finally I removed the email account too and re-added it. During the new account setup workflow Thunderbird seems to look for calendars too but failed to find any...

How do I proceed? How are you supposed to set up a Google Calendar on a custom domain using the OAuth2 sign-in procedure?

Asked by amsfam7 4 days ago

Last reply by amsfam7 1 hour ago

Could not connect to mail server, the connection was refused

Hi I have been having issues with my Thunderbird emails which would not send or be received. Now I can send but not receive. Whenever I use it or open it I get one consi… (read more)

Hi I have been having issues with my Thunderbird emails which would not send or be received. Now I can send but not receive.

Whenever I use it or open it I get one consistent error message as follows:

"Could not connect to mail server mail.transitioncoachingbedford.co.uk, the connection was refused"

And on sending emails I get a pop up error that says:

"your message was sent but a copy was not placed in your sent folder due to network or file access errors".

I've turned the firewall off, I've uninstalled Thunderbird and re-installed but can't fix. I've read through suggestions for fixes on other issues that sound the same but am not at all computer minded and don't understand most of the suggestions.

Can anyone please help as this is my business email. I've got access to the emails on something called RoundCube but not sure what to do.

Asked by larissa5 2 hours ago

Last reply by larissa5 1 hour ago

Не могу зайти в почту Thunderbird

Я не могу зайти в свою почту на Thunderbird - при входе выскакивает ошибка -на скриншоте прикрепил - до этого я заходил без проблем - пароль и логин вообще ничего не меня… (read more)

Я не могу зайти в свою почту на Thunderbird - при входе выскакивает ошибка -на скриншоте прикрепил - до этого я заходил без проблем - пароль и логин вообще ничего не меня - просто в один момент перестало заходить Так же на втором скриншот видны настройки входа- прошу помочь.

Asked by ramjonxk 2 hours ago

Last reply by david 1 hour ago

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Thunderbird duplicate downloads

Not used Thunderbird for about a week as was away. On my return I am now getting duplicate downloads every-time I open Thunderbird on my desktop using Windows 10. I am on… (read more)

Not used Thunderbird for about a week as was away. On my return I am now getting duplicate downloads every-time I open Thunderbird on my desktop using Windows 10. I am on Thunderbird version 115.12.2. I have been using Thunderbird for a long time and this is the first time this happened.

I recreated the global-message-db.sqlite indexfile, turned off my anti-virus, compacted folders but nothing solved the problem.

However I did find a similar question on this site with a solution which wasn't exactly the same but lead me to investigate the Mail folder in my profile. I see I am getting duplicate pop.gmail.com folders (pop.gmail.com, pop.gmail-1.com, pop.gmail-2.com, etc.). I guess that is probably connected to the problem.

When I open Thunderbird I also get the message 'Connection to server pop.gmail.com was reset'.

Any help would be appreciated. I didn't want to delete any pop.gmail.com folders without expert advice.

Thank-you in advance.

Asked by gilbertmyemails 1 day ago

Answered by gilbertmyemails 5 hours ago

EMAIL SLOW

IF I SEND AN EMAIL TO MYSELF, JUST ONE WORD AS A TEST, I HIT "SEND", AND IT IMMEDIATELY GOES AND ARRIVES, AS PER NORMAL. FINE. IF I SEND EXACTLY THE SAME ONE WORD EMAIL… (read more)

IF I SEND AN EMAIL TO MYSELF, JUST ONE WORD AS A TEST, I HIT "SEND", AND IT IMMEDIATELY GOES AND ARRIVES, AS PER NORMAL. FINE. IF I SEND EXACTLY THE SAME ONE WORD EMAIL TEST TO, FOR EXAMPLE, MY WIFE, OR ANY OTHER INDIVIDUAL RECIEPIENT, IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO EVEN SEND. I GET A PROGRESS BAR AS IF I WAS SENDING A LARGE RAW FILE OR SOMESUCH. LIKEWISE IF I SEND THE EMAIL TO ME AND CC IT TO ONE OTHER PERSON IT TAKES AGES TO SEND. ONLY AN EMAIL TO MYSSELF ALONE WORKS AT THE USUAL SPEED. MY BROADBAND SPEED IS FINE. I HAVE USED THUNDERBIRD FOR YEARS ON DIFFERENT LAPTOPS AND DIFFERENT COMPUTERS WITHOUT THIS ISSUE. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO, CAN YOU HELP?

Asked by info897 4 days ago

Last reply by Matt 2 hours ago

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Microsoft Oauth2 authentification - option not available for outgoing server

I have received an email from Microsoft informing me of changes to its authentification procedure. As from Sept, to continue using Thunderbird to access my outlook/hotmai… (read more)

I have received an email from Microsoft informing me of changes to its authentification procedure. As from Sept, to continue using Thunderbird to access my outlook/hotmail accounts, I have to change the authentification method to Oauth2. The reasons and changes required are detailed here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/microsoft-oauth-authentication-and-thunderbird-202 I have 2 problems. 1. imap-mail.outlook.com - I can change my authentification method to Oauth2. However, when I then try to access my mail via TB, I get an error stating that the server imap-mail.outlook.com does not support the authentification method! (see image) 2. Outgoing Server SMTP There is no Oauth2 option available to choose!

Can anyone help? I am using the most up to date version of Thunderbird 115.12.2 (64-bit).

Asked by david_mccloy 5 days ago

Answered by sfhowes 5 days ago

Email Storage

Thank you in advance for any help. I am using Thunderbird 115.12.2 I'm on IMAP. I having a working knowledge of Thunderbird, but not a whiz by any means. Since I hav… (read more)

Thank you in advance for any help. I am using Thunderbird 115.12.2

I'm on IMAP. I having a working knowledge of Thunderbird, but not a whiz by any means.

Since I have both personal and business emails, I keep them historically. I delete what I don't think I'll ever need to refer to.

When my email storage, gets into the 90's, I get nervous. I go through and delete as many emails as possible, and sometimes manage to get the percentage to go down 1 percent.

So... I'm a little confused. I thought that perhaps this was syncing with the Comcast server, and that the percentage was not for any Thunderbird storage. Is Thunderbird storing on another server?

What should my settings be, so that I can maintain all my email on my computer? I don't need to store it on any server. I'm afraid to make any adjustments for fear of losing email on my computer.

Is there someone who can walk me through this process in steps I can understand? LOL

I know I am set up with IMAP.

Thanks so much!

Wayne

Asked by mrwayyne 3 days ago

Last reply by david 4 hours ago

Unified Inbox marked as favorite folder does not stay in favorite folder section after Thunderbird restart

Hi. A previous thread was archived on this (https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1418749) but it is still an issue in 115.12.2 (64-bit), macOS. Turn on Unified… (read more)

Hi. A previous thread was archived on this (https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1418749) but it is still an issue in 115.12.2 (64-bit), macOS.

  1. Turn on Unified Folders.
  2. Mark the unified Inbox as a favorite. It appears in favorite folders.
  3. Restart Thunderbird.
  4. Other favorite folders still appear, but Inbox is gone. It is still marked as a favorite folder however.
  5. If you toggle the unified Inbox favorite on and off, it reappears.

Asked by Arturo 6 hours ago

Last reply by Arturo 4 hours ago

Thunderbird emailing service required

I wish to access my emails through Thunderbird (in addition to Zimbra) . On a previous computer I had both providers working side by side without difficulty. However my … (read more)

I wish to access my emails through Thunderbird (in addition to Zimbra) . On a previous computer I had both providers working side by side without difficulty. However my attempted download of Thunderbird is thwarted by the message "you are about to override how Thunderbird identifies with this site. Legitimate banks, stores and other sites will not ask you to do this".

My further investigations online suggest I should "check where my email is posted (My broadband connection is with Shell Energy) and if in the same domain as the mail server, create the security exception".

I am not sufficiently computer literate to understand all this and Shell Energy say they cannot advise me. I do not wish to lose my existing email access via Zimbra and wish to continue using my email address. Would creating the security exception solve the problem and enable me to get both email services together?

With thanks, Patrick Palmer

Asked by patrick.palmer 5 hours ago

Last reply by Matt 5 hours ago

Failed To Import From Outlook 2003 To Thunderbird

Hi, I’m trying to move from Outlook 2003 to Thunderbird 115.12.2 (64-bit). Using the import wizard fails. Tools > Import select Import From Outlook and the following m… (read more)

Hi, I’m trying to move from Outlook 2003 to Thunderbird 115.12.2 (64-bit). Using the import wizard fails. Tools > Import select Import From Outlook and the following message appears. “Either there is no default mail client or the current mail client can not fulfil the message request”. I’m taken back to the Import from screen with the addition of a red panel with “No Profile Found” on it. Outlook 2003 is the default e-mail client, checked more than once. I’m trying to migrate to thunderbird so I have no account setting, thinking they would be imported. My pst’s files have been moved to a directory on a different partition to the Outlook programme, tried creating a dummy profile using default Outlook storage and still fails. I’ve looked at converting pst files to mbox, but this doesn’t see to include the account settings. But I could add them manually or I can not import the mbox files or directory structure into Thunderbird. I’ve been messing around trying other things but nothing works. Internet searches, Thunderbird forum searches suggests solutions but all fails and the steps don’t match Thunderbird menu, etc in many cases. I’m stuck. Can anyone give any advice on how to migrate from Outlook 2003 to Thunderbird. Tools, Add-Ins or manual methods, anything just to get me up and running. PS I’ve two pst files, one is the default main Outlook.pst and the second a secondary store I created in the folders of Outlokk called Store.pst, beside the none default storage location everything else is standard for Outlook and Thunderbird.

Asked by Private61 4 days ago

Last reply by Matt 5 hours ago

How can I set global or default message list display options for all folders in Cards View?

In Thunderbird, I would like to use Cards View, and sort each folder in my email account according to desired 'Sort by' settings (namely, sort by date in descending order… (read more)

In Thunderbird, I would like to use Cards View, and sort each folder in my email account according to desired 'Sort by' settings (namely, sort by date in descending order and use the 'unthreaded' option).

I cannot locate a setting or an option to apply the desired sort settings to all folders in my account. Rather, it appears I must manually apply these settings to each folder, which is tedious given I have a large number of sub-folders in my inbox folder.

Is there a way to apply the settings for one folder to all others, or to change the default settings for each (existing) folder?

Asked by thunderbirds_are_go 1 day ago

Last reply by Matt 5 hours ago