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Account SMTP authentication method

From Sept-16-2024 Microsoft will deprecate Normal Password and require OAuth2 authentication on its email accounts accessed from Thunderbird and other clients. I'm tryin… (read more)

From Sept-16-2024 Microsoft will deprecate Normal Password and require OAuth2 authentication on its email accounts accessed from Thunderbird and other clients.

I'm trying to convert my hotmail accounts on Thunderbird to OAuth2 authentication.

Server Settings Authentication can be set to OAuth2 because OAuth2 is an option in that menu.

But SMTP Server Authentication cannot be set to OAuth2 because OAuth2 is not an option in that menu.

Both Connection Security methods ( Inbound and SMTP ), are set to STARTTLS.

See screenshots, thank you.

Asked by Foxtrot7 2 weeks ago

Answered by Foxtrot7 2 weeks ago

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Microsoft Oauth2 authentification - option not available for outgoing server

I have received an email from Microsoft informing me of changes to its authentification procedure. As from Sept, to continue using Thunderbird to access my outlook/hotmai… (read more)

I have received an email from Microsoft informing me of changes to its authentification procedure. As from Sept, to continue using Thunderbird to access my outlook/hotmail accounts, I have to change the authentification method to Oauth2. The reasons and changes required are detailed here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/microsoft-oauth-authentication-and-thunderbird-202 I have 2 problems. 1. imap-mail.outlook.com - I can change my authentification method to Oauth2. However, when I then try to access my mail via TB, I get an error stating that the server imap-mail.outlook.com does not support the authentification method! (see image) 2. Outgoing Server SMTP There is no Oauth2 option available to choose!

Can anyone help? I am using the most up to date version of Thunderbird 115.12.2 (64-bit).

Asked by david_mccloy 2 weeks ago

Answered by sfhowes 2 weeks ago

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Need to upgrade outlook authentication method - but options do not appear

My Thunderbird Version: 115.12.2 (32 Bit) Microsoft is changing the authentication method for outlook mail to OAuth2. I follow the guide here, https://support.mozilla.o… (read more)

My Thunderbird Version: 115.12.2 (32 Bit)

Microsoft is changing the authentication method for outlook mail to OAuth2. I follow the guide here,

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/microsoft-oauth-authentication-and-thunderbird-202

And I get to this screen - but my version of the program does not have OAuth2 as an option (see attached image).

Thanks for the help.

Asked by steve.hageman 3 weeks ago

Answered by sfhowes 3 weeks ago

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oauth2

Microsoft tell me that I must use OAuth2 for my accounts, else I'll be locked out. Server is imap-mail.outlook.com. If I select OAuth2, then I can't receive emails unles… (read more)

Microsoft tell me that I must use OAuth2 for my accounts, else I'll be locked out.

Server is imap-mail.outlook.com. If I select OAuth2, then I can't receive emails unless I reset back to Normal Password.

I'm also supposed to set my SMTP server (smtp-mail.outlook.com) to OAuth2, but this isn't an option on the drop down list.

Help, please!

Asked by martin_d_clarke 2 weeks ago

Answered by martin_d_clarke 2 weeks ago

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OAUTH2 works for SMTP Hotmail but won't connect to Imap-Mail server. MSFT says must fix by 9/16. Urgent!

Microsoft sent email last night announcing the end of "Normal Password" for Hotmail, and warning that Hotmail would REQUIRE "modern authrentication" beginning 9/16. I ha… (read more)

Microsoft sent email last night announcing the end of "Normal Password" for Hotmail, and warning that Hotmail would REQUIRE "modern authrentication" beginning 9/16. I have personal desktop subscription to Microsoft 365. I have set Microsoft account to 2FA and checked in Tbird that cookies are enabled.

I have spent hours and days trying & failing. With server imap-mail.outlook.com using OAUTH2, Thunderbird won't sync and shows message saying that server doesn't support the authentication protocol please enter another one. With 2FA still turned on and using Normal Password setting and entering an App Password from Microsoft, the Imap connection is fine about 85% of the time, needing re-entry of the App password about once a day or so (usually requires several tries until App Password gets accepted.)

The 0AUTH2 fails with Norton Smart Firewall turned Off or Turned On-makes no difference.

(Sending email with Outlook and 0AUTH2 DOES work okay.)

I've also tried Imap connection with a different server: Outlook.office365.com, using 0AUTH2.

In this case, Tbird shows me a Timeout error and never makes an Imap connection to the server.  

I've been limping along with the app password, and "normal password" authentication, but now Microsoft announces they will stop accepting connections that are not 0Auth2 ("modern authentication") from Tbird or any other software after 9/16. The clock is ticking. I've tried every remedy I've seen online from Tbird or from Microsoft. Nothing has yet allowed a QAUTH connection for Tbird to a hotmail IMAP server. Please help! !

Asked by Kenmp 3 weeks ago

Answered by christ1 2 weeks ago

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Thunderbird outgoing server does not have Oauth authentication method

I would like to change my account settings for my hotmail account, but when I try to change from Normal Password under Outgoing Server (SMTP) there is no option for Oauth… (read more)

I would like to change my account settings for my hotmail account, but when I try to change from Normal Password under Outgoing Server (SMTP) there is no option for Oauth. Is there something I can do to enable this option.

Asked by michael_sime 3 weeks ago

Answered by christ1 3 weeks ago

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Lost SMTP passwords

I am running version 115.12.2 (64-bit). I have deleted all stored passwords using Settings -> Privacy and Security -> Show Passwords. As expected, when I try to ret… (read more)

I am running version 115.12.2 (64-bit). I have deleted all stored passwords using Settings -> Privacy and Security -> Show Passwords. As expected, when I try to retrieve emails a pop-up appears asking for the password - which I save. However, when I try to send an email there is no pop-up and the remote server rejects the email. How do I set a new outgoing password?

Asked by moz35 3 weeks ago

Answered by moz35 3 weeks ago

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Thunderbird changes hotmail password?

I've appreciated using Thunderbird for an ad-free Hotmail experience for quite some time. I've changed my Hotmail password every few weeks lately and Thunderbird worked … (read more)

I've appreciated using Thunderbird for an ad-free Hotmail experience for quite some time. I've changed my Hotmail password every few weeks lately and Thunderbird worked fine when I entered the new password at the prompt when Thunderbird started.

Just now however, I needed to get into my Microsoft account that uses the same password as my Hotmail account. My login to Microsoft failed. Trying to understand why, I looked in Thunderbird at the saved password for Hotmail's server:

oauth://login.microsoftonline.com (https://outlook.office.com/IMAP.AccessAsUser.All

https://outlook.office.com/POP.AccessAsUser.All 
https://outlook.office.com/SMTP.Send offline_access)

The saved password was a 464 character long ASCII string totally irrelevant to the password I'd selected for Hotmail and Microsoft.

I went through the password change process for Hotmail, was then able to get into my Microsoft account and restarted Thunderbird. As usual, Thunderbird asked for the new password. I entered it and was then able to receive new mail from the Hotmail server in Thunderbird. However, again, the saved password in Thunderbird for Hotmail was not the password I'd entered.

Next, I deleted the saved passwords in Thunderbird, restarted it and this time it prompted me to be sure I'd downloaded it from a reliable source. I've never seen that prompt before. It came with my Linux Mint installation, so I thought it would be safe, but again there's an irrelevant password saved for my Hotmail account.

It's like it eventually changes my password for Hotmail and Microsoft since I can get mail through Thunderbird with the odd password it saves, but if I use what should be my password for Hotmail or my Microsoft account via a web page interface, the password doesn't work.

I'll have to stop using Thunderbird if this continues.

Asked by change2peace+firefox 6 months ago

Answered by Stans 6 months ago

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POP3 OAuth2 Authentication

I have a problem with Thunderbird 115.11.1 with the POP3 server inbound.att.net. Someone on at at7t forum suggested changing from Userid/password to Secure Mail Key. I … (read more)

I have a problem with Thunderbird 115.11.1 with the POP3 server inbound.att.net. Someone on at at7t forum suggested changing from Userid/password to Secure Mail Key. I had previously set up two Keys with at&t, but AI have never activated them. I looked at one URL, and was able to change the settings for inbound.att.net. But I did not see anywhere to enter one of the Keys that I had generated earlier. When I tried to re-configure outbound.att.net, I did not see a OAuth2 option. I do not need to re-configure outbound at the present time, as I can send mail without a problem. But receiving mail does not work. Here is what I see in the error console log:


mailnews.pop3.246: Connecting to pop://inbound.att.net:995 Pop3Client.jsm:141:18 mailnews.pop3.246: Connected Pop3Client.jsm:295:18 mailnews.pop3.246: S: +OK Hello from jpop-0.1

Pop3Client.jsm:348:18 mailnews.pop3.246: C: CAPA Pop3Client.jsm:508:20 mailnews.pop3.246: S: +OK CAPA list follows

IMPLEMENTATION jpop-0.1

EXPIRE-NEVER

PIPELINING

RESP-CODES

TOP

UIDL

USER

SASL PLAIN XOAUTH2

.

Pop3Client.jsm:348:18 mailnews.pop3.246: Possible auth methods: XOAUTH2 Pop3Client.jsm:597:18 mailnews.pop3.246: Current auth method: XOAUTH2 Pop3Client.jsm:668:18 mailnews.pop3.246: C: AUTH XOAUTH2 Pop3Client.jsm:508:20 mailnews.pop3.246: S: +

Pop3Client.jsm:348:18 uncaught exception: initFromMail failed, hostname: inbound.att.net Prompter.sys.mjs:1231:17 mailnews.pop3.246: NetworkTimeoutError: a Network error occurred Pop3Client.jsm:369:18 mailnews.pop3.246: Connection closed. Pop3Client.jsm:395:18 mailnews.pop3.246: SecurityError info: Pop3Client.jsm:375:20 mailnews.pop3.246: Done with status=2152398862 Pop3Client.jsm:1486:18 mailnews.pop3.247: Connecting to pop://inbound.att.net:587 Pop3Client.jsm:141:18 mailnews.pop3.247: ConnectionRefusedError: a Network error occurred Pop3Client.jsm:369:18 mailnews.pop3.247: SecurityError info: Pop3Client.jsm:375:20 mailnews.pop3.247: Done with status=2152398861 Pop3Client.jsm:1486:18 mailnews.pop3.248: Connecting to pop://inbound.att.net:587 Pop3Client.jsm:141:18 mailnews.pop3.248: ConnectionRefusedError: a Network error occurred Pop3Client.jsm:369:18 mailnews.pop3.248: SecurityError info: Pop3Client.jsm:375:20 mailnews.pop3.248: Done with status=2152398861 Pop3Client.jsm:1486:18 mailnews.pop3.249: Connecting to pop://inbound.att.net:587 Pop3Client.jsm:141:18 mailnews.pop3.249: ConnectionRefusedError: a Network error occurred Pop3Client.jsm:369:18 mailnews.pop3.249: SecurityError info: Pop3Client.jsm:375:20 mailnews.pop3.249: Done with status=2152398861


Here is what I changed: Thunderbird: Account Settings --> Server Setings --> Security Settings --> Authentication Method Normal Pasword -> OAuth2

                                                   Inbound.att.net: Port 995 --> 587
                                                   Connection Security: SSL/TLS --> STARTTLS 
   

What do I have to do to get one of my two Keys into the inbound Thunderbird configuration? Thanks.

Asked by bsfinkel 1 month ago

Answered by bsfinkel 1 month ago

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Remote content abruptly enabled for just one email message

I've encountered one message in Thunderbird that has remote content enabled (which I don't recall explicitly enabling). In Settings, under "Allow remote content in messa… (read more)

I've encountered one message in Thunderbird that has remote content enabled (which I don't recall explicitly enabling). In Settings, under "Allow remote content in messages" (unchecked), the "Exceptions..." list is empty. I've also cleared the cache, switched to offline mode, and went back to that message, but it still shows remote content.

Asked by 7rh8tjqn9b 1 month ago

Answered by Matt 1 month ago

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Wrong SSL certificate for new.thunderbird.net

I keep getting the prompt* about new.thunderbird.net expiration. Indeed, after opening https://new.thunderbird.net in Firefox, the subdomain uses the Let's Encrypt SSL c… (read more)

I keep getting the prompt* about new.thunderbird.net expiration.

Indeed, after opening https://new.thunderbird.net in Firefox, the subdomain uses the Let's Encrypt SSL certificate that expired on 22nd May 2024. This certificate list many subdomains by name.

For https://www.thunderbird.net (after opening it in Firefox), another SSL certificate file is used (issued by Google Trust Services LLC by on 13 May 2024) valid until 11 Aug 2024. It says it should apply to thunderbird.net and *.thunderbird.net, but the new.thunderbird.net still points to the old Let's Encrypt certificate perhaps?

  • I know I could just allow the expired one as an exception

Asked by Grass Prisoner 1 month ago

Answered by Matt 1 month ago

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No Oauth2 option found in setttings

While using Thunderbird, it mysteriously stopped connecting to Yahoo Mail. This happens every few years and I think it's related to Oauth2 credentials. I generated a ne… (read more)

While using Thunderbird, it mysteriously stopped connecting to Yahoo Mail. This happens every few years and I think it's related to Oauth2 credentials.

I generated a new secure mail key and copied it into Thunderbird but that didn't work. So then I checked online, and one of the steps in the Thunderbird instructions is: "Select 'Server Settings' for mail account; Set incoming server 'Authentication Method' to 'Oauth2'; Click on 'OK' ". But Oauth2 isn't one of the options. The choices are normal password, encrypted password, Kerberos/GSSAPI, and NTLM.


I'm using POP. Tbird version 115.11.1.

Asked by jeddolnick 1 month ago

Answered by jeddolnick 1 month ago

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Google Anmeldungs Fenster

Guten Tag, ich benötige Hilfe das Googlefenster weg zu bekommen. Ich möchte mich nicht über Google anmelden, wenn ich es auch über Mozilla kann. Die Anmeldedaten von Mo… (read more)

Guten Tag,

ich benötige Hilfe das Googlefenster weg zu bekommen. Ich möchte mich nicht über Google anmelden, wenn ich es auch über Mozilla kann. Die Anmeldedaten von Mozilla funktionieren nicht.

Bitte sagen Sie mir, wie ich das Problem lösen kann.

In dem Fenster habe ich keine Möglichkeiten die Links an zu klicken, da dann das Fenster weiß wird. Ich kann es nur wegklicken, es kommt aber innerhalb von 5 Minuten wieder. Oder ich melde mich mit google an, was ich aber nicht möchte.

Danke für Ihre Hilfe.

Eva Langenberger

Asked by info11460 1 month ago

Answered by sfhowes 1 month ago

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TB how to delete the 'default' setting on one account (yes, yet again!)

Not so newbee here. Very long career in S/W, but 20 years as a Luddite so now trying to catch up. 3 gmail accs - all good. 3 hotkey accs - receive ok, but cannot send -… (read more)

Not so newbee here. Very long career in S/W, but 20 years as a Luddite so now trying to catch up.

3 gmail accs - all good. 3 hotkey accs - receive ok, but cannot send - broken recently. These old legacy accs were taken over by iPrimus but are still visible/SameSameBroken at hotkey webmail.

1 of the 3 hotkey is set to Default. It is MORE broken than the other 2. How do I remove this Default? I will choose a gmail account to be the Default. But how exactly do i unDefault the hotkey acc.

No, I don't need nor want, to use iPrimus pop/smtp settings. Yes, the broken hotkey smtp issue is probably no biggy - just work in hand.

Thanks for any assistance... I see this thread is very busy. ps, I remain committed to the goals of Open (free) Software. If only the worldview was as committed, how good it would be for everyone!

Asked by Rod Bruce 1 month ago

Answered by david 1 month ago

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Thunderbird won't allow access to "live.thunderbird.net" or "addons.thunderbird.net".

I have just completely reinstalled Thunderbird v115.11.1 after uninstalling the previous installation. There are two problems, possibly linked to a faulty or missing set… (read more)

I have just completely reinstalled Thunderbird v115.11.1 after uninstalling the previous installation. There are two problems, possibly linked to a faulty or missing setting.

Remote images will not display, even after specifically enabling remote images for each email, or after turning on "display remote content" as a default. Also it claims there is a potential security threat with Thunderbird's own web addresses: "live.thunderbird.net." and "addons.thunderbird.net.".

I have attached screen-shots of the error messages, and of a thunderbird email that fails to display its images.

Asked by Andrew Hunt 1 month ago

Answered by Matt 1 month ago

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Security Exception Error on 1 PC, not on other

My wife & I have the same PCs running Windows 10 & Thunderbird 115.11.0 (32bit). We have a hosted web-site that also supports email, and we each have an email ac… (read more)

My wife & I have the same PCs running Windows 10 & Thunderbird 115.11.0 (32bit).

We have a hosted web-site that also supports email, and we each have an email account (eg neddy@goon.com.au & minnie@goon.com.au). I've checked that both our POP server configurations are identical but despite that about once a week minnie@goon.com.au receives a warning to add security exception but neddy doesn't. This started happening two weeks ago after a years error free running.

The host has checked that goon.com.au has a valid SSL certificate, so what could be causing the discrepancy and how do I set about fixing it please?

Asked by mike741 1 month ago

Answered by mike741 1 month ago

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Disabling message deletion from the IMAP server and recovering mail

I installed Thunderbird and downloaded the mail (IMAP server) to the mailbox, but at the same time the program deleted all the mail from the server!!! I can't find anywhe… (read more)

I installed Thunderbird and downloaded the mail (IMAP server) to the mailbox, but at the same time the program deleted all the mail from the server!!! I can't find anywhere in Thunderbird how to turn it off so that the program doesn't delete messages from the server. Someone suggested that you should turn off "the selected folder will be available in offline mode" in the Synchronization tab. I did it, but it didn't help and I turned it on again. Now I don't have my messages anywhere, neither on my computer nor on the server. Rescue news from ten years - where are they????

Asked by Mon5 1 month ago

Answered by Matt 1 month ago

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[TB] Configuring IMAP with comcast error 1014

First, I am supporting a family member, who has TB configured on two separate machines. Configuring for Comcast IMAP+SMTP, in the usual manner; nothing esoteric about tha… (read more)

First, I am supporting a family member, who has TB configured on two separate machines. Configuring for Comcast IMAP+SMTP, in the usual manner; nothing esoteric about that, all very routine.

Machine A seems to be working okay, no errors. TB up to date on this machine, connected over an ethernet wire, if that makes any difference.

Machine B, getting spam prompted over IMAP 1014 errors. No other information is provided than 1014.

I have tried dropping the account configuration hundred percent, restarting TB, re-adding the account configuration, to no avail. Still spam 1014 errors.

I did happen to notice TB needed an update, so I did that as well. Still 1014 errors.

I have also tried dropping that email saved password from the saved passwords, and responding to the subsequent re-enter password prompt. Also to no avail.

What if anything might have changed, and how can we contend with this? What is so corrupt, do we need to be mucking around in any AppData files, roaming files, etc?

We are not the only ones, apparently, to have bumped into this issue. Not sure if this is also Comcast specific, since a recent TB and/or IMAP specification change, i.e. maybe we try with a gmail account, for instance.

Wondering also, is it IMAP and/or Comcast somehow tieing Machine A to the IMAP and not releasing that association? Knowing a little bit about IMAP in this regard. And/or somehow now prohibiting Machine B+ from establishing a connection?

Asked by Michael Powell 2 months ago

Answered by Michael Powell 2 months ago

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Windows & Gmail Imap authentication failure

Hi, 3 weeks ago I suddenly could not log in to my email without errors. First I get a Google screen "Choose an account" showing the three Gmail accounts I use. I select… (read more)

Hi, 3 weeks ago I suddenly could not log in to my email without errors.

First I get a Google screen "Choose an account" showing the three Gmail accounts I use. I select the first one.

"Mozilla Thunderbird wants to access your Google Account". This refers to calendars. I take the Allow option.

Then I get the message "Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead

Thunderbird detected a potential security threat and did not continue to localhost. If you visit this site, attackers could try to steal information like your passwords, emails, or credit card details."

When I close this window I get another Google screen .

"Mozilla Thunderbird wants to access your Google Account". This refers to i) mail, ii) contacts, and iii) calendars. I take the Allow option.

Then I get the same message message "Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead

Thunderbird detected a potential security threat and did not continue to localhost. If you visit this site, attackers could try to steal information like your passwords, emails, or credit card details."

This process cycles through the other two emails. Then I get and authentication failure message.

I have seen hints that this might be a certificate issue but I have tried in vain to find certificates stored in Thunderbird.

Any help approeciated.

Thanks

PaulM

Asked by myerscough.paul 1 month ago

Answered by myerscough.paul 1 month ago