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I'm a writer. In keeping with the Law of Primacy, my first work is usually my best work (after a few tweaks). I recently had to write an email response to someone for the Darling Bride and me.

I waxed poetic and wrote an incredibly diplomatic response to a most unpleasant situation. After completing the entire message down to our signatures, I selected "File" and "Save" to make sure it was all saved in the Drafts folder. That way, I could open it on another device and read the draft to her.

Imagine my shock when I opened it, only to find that the draft stopped in the middle of a word - while I was correcting a typo - and didn't save anything after that! Frantic, I went back to the computer I used to write it, hoping the entire email was at least saved locally. Nope! The draft stopped in the middle of the message, even though I had saved the entire thing.

Perhaps this isn't high priority for a lot of users... but for those few of us, it's a critical, fatal flaw that has to be resolved. I can't even imagine that I did anything wrong: I saved the message before exiting; and opened to find half of it missing. I love the idea of Thunderbird and its privacy features, compared with the data-mining big names. But I can't afford to lose data! This was a personal response, thankfully, and not related to my work as a writer and author. However, I have to trust my email client with the data I save to it. Any hints to prevent this are greatly appreciated.

A new problem since July 1, 2024 Thunderbird keeps crashing on start-up when checking for new mail. HELP!! Crash ID: bp-e8be7291-7fe9-41c0-bd21-45d860240702

alfieepstein@gmail.com

Not used Thunderbird for about a week as was away. On my return I am now getting duplicate downloads every-time I open Thunderbird on my desktop using Windows 10. I am on Thunderbird version 115.12.2. I have been using Thunderbird for a long time and this is the first time this happened.

I recreated the global-message-db.sqlite indexfile, turned off my anti-virus, compacted folders but nothing solved the problem.

However I did find a similar question on this site with a solution which wasn't exactly the same but lead me to investigate the Mail folder in my profile. I see I am getting duplicate pop.gmail.com folders (pop.gmail.com, pop.gmail-1.com, pop.gmail-2.com, etc.). I guess that is probably connected to the problem.

When I open Thunderbird I also get the message 'Connection to server pop.gmail.com was reset'.

Any help would be appreciated. I didn't want to delete any pop.gmail.com folders without expert advice.

Thank-you in advance.

When I restart Mozilla Thunderbird, my S/MIME certificate preferences under Account Settings seem to break.

When I initially select a certificate, both the common name/certificate name and the certificate fingerprint appear in the interface (see Working Settings.png). However, after restarting Thunderbird, only the common name/certificate name appears in the interface, and I cannot use S/MIME to sign messages (see Broken Settings.png). When I attempt to do so, I receive the following error message:

Send Message Error Sending of the message failed. You specified that this message should be digitally signed, but the application either failed to find the signing certificate specified in your Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings, or the certificate has expired.

To be clear, Thunderbird has no problem finding and using the certificate right after I set it—the problem only appears when I restart Thunderbird and the appearance of the certificate in the settings changes. The certificate does not expire until April 2025, so this is not the issue. The issue also occurs with another account using a different certificate that is also unexpired.

I am using Thunderbird 115.12.2 (64-bit ESR) on MacOS with Apple Silicon.

I am using Windows 10 Home on an HP laptop. Some months ago, I began getting this error message when trying to start Thunderbird: Your Thunderbird profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible. I've been slogging along using my Gmail reader since then but I need my address books from TB for my business. I really need to get this fixed.

I've read all the questions/replies on this and have uninstalled and reinstalled TB. My Appdata/Roaming/TB file only has 5 files in it: Crash Reports, Pending Pings and Profiles plus a couple of 1 KB config files. Don't know if this is right or not.

When I search the Profiles folder using .ini, I get this Notepad info:

[Install8216C80C92C4E828] Default=C:\Users\*\Documents\yvfr1fi4.default Locked=1

[Profile3] Name=thunderbird IsRelative=1 Path=Profiles/kavosmqu.thunderbird

I have this yvfr file on a thumb drive and I tried uploading that into the roaming/TB file but I still get the same error message.

Any help greatly appreciated! Thank you.

why does my hotmail in thunderbird sometimes get my emails and other times it says "Sending of password for user *********@hotmail.com did not succeed. Mail server pop-mail.outlook.com responded: Authentication failure: unknown user name or bad password"? Then it starts getting them again. It's totally random. Every once in a while it does it with my .live email too. Yet other .live and .hotmail addresses never have a problem? TIA

I recently changed my google account/ gmail password. Since then I cannot send gmail via thunderbird. (I can send others hotmail etc) I can receive mail. I can send gmail via the gmail web browser. Sent gmail mail then shows in thunderbird.

I get the following message when sending email in thunderbird: Login to server smtp.googlemail.com with username sjagutpal@gmail.com failed. Enter new password I enter my new password. Fails again.

Sending of the message failed. Unable to authenticate to Outgoing server (SMTP) smtp.googlemail.com. Please check the password and verify the 'Authentication method' in 'Account Settings | Outgoing server (SMTP)'

note: IMAP server settings is OAuth2.

please help ?

Many Thanks...

Sanjay sjagutpal@gmail.com

Hello! Thunderbird has stopped downloading messages from my Yahoo+ account. I can send messages from it OK. When I try to get it to download, it says: Checking Inbox for new messages... and waits at this point. Then I get: Host Contacted, sending login information... Then it waits for a long time. Eventually, it indicates "No messages to download", and then goes back to "checking inbox for new messages". If I click "Get Messages", a pop-up comes up with: "Error with account... and below: The account fischer94563@yahoo.com is being processed. Please wait until processing is complete to get messages." I've deleted the APP and downloaded and installed a new copy. No changes. Deleted and reentered my password with Yahoo. I'm at a loss to understand why this is happening, but it was working fine until recently. Any thoughts? Thanks. Kevin

Hello, In my work email account (Zimbra instance), very regularly new emails keep reappearing as unread even after they are marked as read. If I restart Thunderbird, or if I go offline then online again the problem is solved; however, I would like a more definitive solution.

When the problem occurs, in the console I can see "The current operation on 'Inbox' did not succeed. The mail server for account X responded: mailbox selected READ-ONLY.". I tried solution suggest at https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1276757, i.e., setting `mail.server.default.send_client_info` to `false`, but it did not work. Any other suggestion?

I have a Windows 10 pc, which is current with all Microsoft and manufacturer (Lenovo) updates. Thunderbird won't run since the last update. It just gives a message saying, "Your computer must be restarted to complete a previous upgrade of Thunderbird. Do you want to reboot now?" After several reboots, I have given up. A support forum solution from 4 years ago recommends deleting a file (global-messages-db.sqlite) at a location (C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\8charstring.default) that seems not to exist (hidden?) on my pc. What do you suggest? Thanks.

I can't SEND on Thunderbird as of Update to Version 115.12.1 on 6/19. I was able to SEND on June 18th and left town for a week and when I came back could not Send. That could be a coincidence. Have Windows 11, with Defender Firewall and Security virus protection. I have TB version 115.12.2 up to date. I have checked with Spectrum for the correct configuration and currently I have as Description: SMTP Server (on top line); Server Name: Mail.brighthouse.com and Port 465, No Authentication and SSL/TLS. My User Name: e-mail address ends in @tampabay.rr.com and that is the same as shown on incoming server.

My husband just downloaded TB program on his Windows 8.1 which is my old computer that I've been running TB on for 15 years without a hitch!! ''''And he also cannot SEND.'''' It's very frustrating - we've tried changing server settings since Spectrum uses not only Brighthouse (which is the one they say covers the Tampabay.rr.com address) but they also use Mobil.charter.net and also TWC.com. I've tried changing them up but nothing works. I've tried changing Ports and anything I could change I did, but nothing works. I did get a couple of error msgs but they didn't help. Brighthouse timed out and another msg was saying that the email address I was sending as had to match the email address of the authentication and that didn't make sense as I have only had one address & (typed correctly in all places). I have called Spectrum more than once and asked for an upper level, however, they were no help at all saying they have no resp. for 3rd party etc. I HOPE YOU CAN HELP SOLVE THIS MYSTERY. Thank you!

Tabatha

My outgoing email stopped working suddenly. Incoming email works fine. I sent an email with a large attachment. It sent but after that I could not send anymore emails. I checked my password and server settings nothing has changed except I can't send email. I get a pop up window that asks for my password but after entering my password and hit enter I get another pop up window that says login failed please enter new password. The password works fine when I go AOL mail and enter it.

Hello --

Not sure when this happened.

Got 2 email accounts, account X and account Y. All was working fine until today, 6/27/24. Both have different outgoing SMTP servers.

Now I am trying to send, it is asking for passwords, which I have and is 100% correct. In fact, if I put in wrong password it tells me, so I know it is communicating. When I put in the correct password, I get a timeout on BOTH SMTP servers.

I disabled Norton Firewall.

Works fine from another PC app (poppeeper) and from my android (k9 mail). Both accounts are IMAP.

Neither SSL/TLS or STARTTLS makes a difference. Nor did a re-boot.

TB 115.12.2 (64 Bit) on Windows 10

Sending of the message failed. The message could not be sent because the connection to Outgoing server (SMTP) mailroom4.hostrocket.com timed out. Try again.

Description: hostrocket Server Name: mailroom4.hostrocket.com Port: 465 User Name: ernie@e(redacted).com Authentication method: Normal password Connection Security: SSL/TLS

Anything change?

IF I SEND AN EMAIL TO MYSELF, JUST ONE WORD AS A TEST, I HIT "SEND", AND IT IMMEDIATELY GOES AND ARRIVES, AS PER NORMAL. FINE. IF I SEND EXACTLY THE SAME ONE WORD EMAIL TEST TO, FOR EXAMPLE, MY WIFE, OR ANY OTHER INDIVIDUAL RECIEPIENT, IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO EVEN SEND. I GET A PROGRESS BAR AS IF I WAS SENDING A LARGE RAW FILE OR SOMESUCH. LIKEWISE IF I SEND THE EMAIL TO ME AND CC IT TO ONE OTHER PERSON IT TAKES AGES TO SEND. ONLY AN EMAIL TO MYSSELF ALONE WORKS AT THE USUAL SPEED. MY BROADBAND SPEED IS FINE. I HAVE USED THUNDERBIRD FOR YEARS ON DIFFERENT LAPTOPS AND DIFFERENT COMPUTERS WITHOUT THIS ISSUE. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO, CAN YOU HELP?

Thunderbird crashed during a normal close (https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/report/index/3c0242b0-1a55-4eba-9f02-4a7bc0240126) and since then when I open Thunderbird, tabs appear for the messages I had open at the time of the crash, but they are all blank, and the tabs themselves are all empty. It is as if they are place-holders that are then never populated. I've attached a screen shot showing some of these tabs, with the crash report tab open and displayed.

About 1-2 months ago I reindexed folders due to mail apparently being missing and this resulted in a huge number of messages that had previously been dealt with becoming marked as unread again.

Ideally I would like the blank tabs to be reinstated and to be able to carry on working on my email from where I left off, but if this is not possible, I need to be able to identify the emails that were open in the tabs to be able to pick up the pieces. This is crucially important as I operate multiple accounts and it would be impossible for me to re-establish state any other way, especially in view of the earlier problem with email becoming marked as unread again. That would condemn me to needing to re-open many thousands of email items to identify those that may need action.

I renamed global-messages-db.sqlite which has been recreated and rebuilt but nothing has changed. The rebuilt file is significantly smaller than the original and if this implies that there has been data loss, I would rather reinstate the original file, if it is safe to do so.

My best guess is that the tabs are defined within history.sqlite and I have made a copy of this file but superficially it appears to contain a lot more than just tabs and it has been updated since the crash.

The most recent change I made to my Thunderbird configuration before the crash was the addition of the British-English dictionary.

The next most recent change to my Thunderbird configuration was the addition of a Proton Mail account using Proton Mail Bridge. I am accessing this account on behalf of someone who has sustained serious injuries and is unable to access it themselves. If this added account or Proton Mail Bridge is implicated in the crash in any way, I would prefer to remove the account and the Bridge software.

Many thanks in advance for your help and guidance with this problem.

Nikita

as stated in the title, my HDD failed the other day and on recovery, my Thunderbird seems to have failed too.

I know (sort of) that it is all driven by the Profile.ini file.

But everytime I relaunch TB (even after what I think is an uninstall and a reinstall) I am getting : "Your Thunderbird profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible."

I would be happy enough to have a blank TB load up and I would reconfigure my various email accounts. but I cannot seem to do even that.

I know there is a trick to getting to a Thunderbird configurator....but I have forgotten what it is.

Where does TB "look" when it starts up? how would I control that?