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I was sorry to see that the 128 Nebula release did not fix the longstanding problem that Thunderbird is very slow to load in Sonoma, and has been since the Sonoma release. This is with 128.0.1esr (64-bit) on an Apple M1 Mac Mini with Sonoma 14.6. I have the same problem on a 2018 Mac Book Pro running Sonoma with an Intel chip. The problem is NOT manifest on a 2013 Mac Book Pro running the last release of Big Sur. In all 3 cases the same email accounts are loaded, so it is some interaction with the OS. (I previously reported this for Tbird 115 under Sonoma, with no resolution.)

Specifically, when I start Tbird 128 on the Sonoma M1 the window comes up in about 2 seconds but contents are blank. The contents don't fill until about 30 seconds. This makes it painful to quickly hop into email to do something, so I am resorting to Apple Mail when in a hurry. If I do the same on my 2013 Big Sur machine, it's 2 seconds for the window to come up and 8 seconds for the content to fill. Upgrading from 115 to 128 did not change this on any of the machines.

None of the enhancements of recent releases are of sufficient value to compensate for this, so I wish the team would focus on ensuring speed on all platforms. Is there any clue what is going on?

After an update a few months ago, all installations of thunderbird always open the calendar tab when the program starts. Previously, calendar tab only opened if I opened it (or maybe if it was left open when last shut down, idr now, sorry). This is only a nuisance, having to close the tab each time I start tbird.

I didn't post about this immediately, as I figured others would experience the same issue (or related) and devs would fix the problem. But it has been several months now and this does get to be annoying. I know that merely clicking a close button shouldn't be that big a deal, but I don't understand why this would become the default; moreover, why there doesn't seem to be any way to disable the calendar or at least modify this new behavior.

I've been using tbird for at least a decade and found it to be reasonably simple to use. I use the calendar function, but only for some installations. I would appreciate being able to change the behavior of the startup or maybe just disable calendar altogether where it isn't needed.

Thanks.

Thunderbird did an auto update this morning and failed to restart. I get a message that says this version is incompatible with the last. I pay over 20 bills from folders I created in it the applications inbox, house billing info and passes and links to the pages and responses, etc. This is a MUST for me that this thing works and works well. Until this morning it was flawless in that capacity. My only fix after extensive research has been to download the newest version from the website, install it and it starts fine...until I close it, then it fails to restart with the same identifier. Each of the two times I have closed it I go through the same thing upon an opening attempt. Im now looking at different mail options as Im on SSI and have one shot at paying bills a month and cant afford to be any later than ssi already makes me, though my creditors have been thus far understanding. I now have to keep my computer on and the app open until Im paid on the 9th so I can be sure to be able to pay my bills. I dont know what you folks are shooting for by tinkering with an already flawless system but you missed this time I m afraid. Leave it alone or let us keep our working system while you offer "new and improved" to those who like to play with new toys. Give me back my old working system before Im forced to look elsewhere for a way to do my monthly duty to my creditors. Sincerely, Arthur Kelly

thunderbird 115.13.0 how do i see my all folders with ALL of the emails? When i go to unified folders sent/inbox it flips the most recent email to the bottom, how do i flip it back, are there any videos, anywhere, that i could watch and learn from????? i can save us both a lot of tme if i could watch a video on how to do this? thank you...b³

for example: also how do i make a directed screen shot of a page? as opposed to the whole page?

First off you should warn that this version changes your profile, so there is no going back. I installed it and have lost ALL of my accounts and had to start from scratch. It took me back to the beginning. I hate the interface, too cluttered, to busy and generally sucks. I am thinking of dumping thunderbird at many, many years of using it.

Hello,

I am running Thunderbird 115.13.0 and cannot get e-mail from my bellsouth.net account on my MacBook Pro #6 computer. I get the error messages below. I have another MacBook Pro #5 running Thunderbird 102.15.1 that is receiving e-mails just fine. As far as I can see the server settings on the two computers are the same. Any advice about how to proceed? Thanks for any ideas.

Al

Hi,

Since the recent update i get custom sounds AND systemsound at the same time. This was not the case before the update, how can i fix that?

Thanks.

I wish to merge TB115 calendar with Google calendar. Do I need Lightning? Do I need Provider for Google Calendar? Confused as Lightning features seem to be included in TB115.

In Outlook, when I navigate to a folder and reply to an email in that folder, the email I send is automatically categorised into that folder, and no other copy appears elsewhere (such as in the 'Sent' folder).

Is this behaviour natively possible in Thunderbird without resorting to an add-on?

I realise there is the option to 'Place replies in the folder of the message being replied to' in the 'Copies & Folders' settings of the email account, but this places a second copy in the 'Sent' folder. I tried experimenting with the radio button options '"Sent" Folder on' and 'Other' in the same settings section, but no combination seems to place one and only one email corresponding to the email I sent in the folder I emailed from without creating a copy in the 'Sent' folder of the account.

I really hope this is not intended because your software just updated itself to this new version, without even checking with me first. So if it did this on purpose, without checking if I wanted this first, that is pretty messed up.

See the attached screenshot. The light theme shot is from your main download page that shows how my cards are supposed to look, and how they USED to look before this update.

The dark screenshot on the right is now my message cards look now. They are OBNOXIOUSLY HUGE FOR NO REASON. They take up way to much sense and are physically causing me PAIN to have to visually parse.

I cannot stress enough, how much this change is affecting me. I am IRATE over this.

Please. For the love of GOD. Tell me there is a way to either fix this, or easily revert to my previous version. I am not on-board with this change at all and I will 100% go postal if I have to be stuck with this shit. I checked every nook and cranny and cannot find a way to adjust this, and from what I can tell, downgrading is neigh impossible.

This evening, Thunderbird has updated to the new version (can't see where the version number is held, unfortunately). Whenever I try to download new emails, I now get the message "Error with account [email address]. Sending of username did not succeed. Mail server pop3.iomartcloud.com responded: Mate, the command must be one of CAPA, USER, PASS or QUIT." Mails are still accessible through the mail client on my phone and through webmail, just not through Thunderbird.

I've been using Thunderbird for my email for many years with no problems at all that I can remember, but all of a sudden, just in the last couple days it has become very, very sluggish to respond to clicks and commands. So far as I can know, I've not done anything that should have caused this to happen. Any ideas and/or suggestions?

From my inbox I normally highlight any emails I want to send to trash and press the DEL key. This morning when I tried to move these across I got a message advising that if I continue it would remove all files from my trash folder. My server settings are move them to nominated folder - see attached. How can I delete from the inbox and transfer to the trash?

The second problem I encounter is whenever I attempt to log into my Thunderbird account I am directed to go through the "Create an account" process as if I don't have an existing account???

I just restarted my Thunderbird and find email addresses next the Correspondents names in the Inbox. These are not needed and makes it more difficult to read the correspondents names. How do I get Thunderbird to only list the Correspondent's names?