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Hello After compacting inbox my messages were showing in the inbox list, however when I clicked on the message the message body was blank.

I tried repairing folder, now I no longer see the last 4 years of emails.

Is there anything I can do to recover them?

Thank you for your help. David

My email has been running slow and i do not have the technical skill to follow protocols from a website. Am desperately trying to speak with a human. I have moved and my former support help is 200 miles away, so dropped my computer off for the first time at a computer repair business who needs my user name and passwords. I realize my request sounds suspicious and am happy to verify all of my company details, but can not do this without your help. My cell is [edited phone# from public community forum]. Thank-you, Eric Ohanian PS-I no longer have access to email until my computer is returned. Is there any way someone can call? Or is there a phone number I can call to reach you?

With no warning there is no message displayed in the message pane for emails received after an apparently random date and before messages received within the last hour or so - there is a gap between those dates. If the user clicks on an email between those dates the message pane shows the from, to and subject of the last email he was able to view, not the correct information, and the message is not displayed. The problem first occurred on 8/1 (don't know what caused it then) and on 8/14 after user opened a Word document attached to an email and printed it. At both times he was running 128.0, and a subsequent update to 128.1 didn't resolve the issue. Repairing the folder on 8/1 appears to have deleted all the messages that would not display, this is confirmed by a reduction in the byte size of the inbox. On 8/14 I copied the inbox (but not the .msf) to local folders, when I opened it the .msf was built with 0 bytes and the "problem" messages were not displayed although this time the byte size of the inbox didn't change. At this point reverting to an earlier version would be a very acceptable option if I knew how to find one we can rely on. Thank you very much for your time.

Windows 10 Home 64 bit. Thunderbird 32 bit up to date I sent a group message with one bad email recipient. Now T-Bird keeps trying to resend that message to the bad address. How do I clear this email? I do have "Send later" installed which I used to send these group emails. I have corrected the bad email address in the 3 pending group emails. I removed all but those from the draft folder.

I have been running Thunderbird for almost seven years now, and these behaviors have persisted since day one on my laptop and desktop computer. First, I have five accounts set up. I am running two add-ons (Provider for Google Calendar, and Quicktext). I am currently running a snap version 115.12.2 of Thunderbird on both machines and they both are running Ubuntu 22.04 LTS. Plenty of RAM and plenty of free disk space.

Here are the two issues...

1. More often than not, when an email comes into one of the inboxes and I am viewing the unified inbox there are two copies of the same email. If I switch back to the actual inbox of the account it only shows the one. This is very aggravating and when you start trying the delete emails from the unified inbox it gets all hosed up and I end up having to go to each individual mailbox to delete the messages.

2. This somewhat relates to issue one... Sometimes when an email is deleted from the unified inbox, a blank record remains like in the image. This shows only one but sometimes there are multiple ones. Of course, if I go to that message's inbox it is not there.

I have tried all the common things like deleting the index files to let the indexes rebuild, comparing folders etc., and again, this has been a persistent problem since day one. Any insight or solution would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you! Mike

I'm experiencing an issue with Thunderbird that started unexpectedly. Whenever I try to access my email, I get a warning message saying that "The site certificate is not valid for this server. Someone may be trying to impersonate the server. It is not recommended to proceed." I'm not sure why this error has suddenly appeared, as everything was working fine before. I haven’t made any changes to my email settings or installed new software recently. Has anyone else encountered this issue or knows how to resolve it?

I have a Bae email account, and three other email accounts that are all auto forwarded to the base account. When I create identities for the auto forwarded accounts, and try to send an email from one of them, I receive a message saying that the identity is not owned by the base account. Help please.

Hi,

I've used Thunderbird for a long time and not had this issue.

Something must have changed because now every time I click "attach" and browse to a file I want to attach such as a simple jpg or pdf, Thunderbird just crashes and asks if I want to send an error report. This is reproducible 100% of the time.

If I drag and drop the attachment to the composition window, the issue does not occur. It only occurs when using the "attach" button and the browser.

It's Thunderbird 128.1.0esr and I'm on Windows 11 23H2.

Here is the output of the log when it crashes: AdapterDeviceID: 0x67df AdapterDriverVersion: 31.0.21916.2 AdapterSubsysID: 23111458 AdapterVendorID: 0x1002 Add-ons: marcoagpinto%40mail.telepac.pt:3.3.5,google%40search.mozilla.org:1.0,bing%40search.mozilla.org:1.0,amazon%40search.mozilla.org:1.1,chambers-en-GB%40search.mozilla.org:1.0,ddg%40search.mozilla.org:1.0,wikipedia%40search.mozilla.org:1.0,thunderbird-compact-dark%40mozilla.org:1.3 AvailablePageFile: 32908718080 AvailablePhysicalMemory: 40984047616 AvailableVirtualMemory: 138513350746112 BackgroundTaskMode: 0 BuildID: 20240730200333 CPUMicrocodeVersion: 0xa601206 ContentSandboxCapable: 1 ContentSandboxLevel: 1 ContentSandboxWin32kState: Win32k Lockdown enabled -- default value is true CrashTime: 1723630140 DOMFissionEnabled: 1 DOMIPCEnabled: 1 EMCheckCompatibility: true GPUProcessLaunchCount: 1 GPUProcessStatus: Running GpuSandboxLevel: 1 HeadlessMode: 0 InstallTime: 1723091690 LastStartupWasCrash: 0 LauncherProcessState: 0 ModuleSignatureInfo: {"ADAPP SASU":["dokan2.dll","dokannp2.dll"],"Apple Inc.":["mdnsNSP.dll"],"Microsoft Corporation":["FileSyncShell64.dll"],"Microsoft Windows":["dlnashext.dll","IconCodecService.dll","usp10.dll","wpdshext.dll","PlayToDevice.dll","adsldpc.dll","wscapi.dll","activeds.dll","mssprxy.dll","globinputhost.dll","oledlg.dll","cscui.dll","atlthunk.dll","duser.dll","dui70.dll","EhStorShell.dll","wtdccm.dll","sfc_os.dll","NetworkExplorer.dll","pcacli.dll","uiautomationcore.dll","winmmbase.dll","linkinfo.dll","winspool.drv","msimg32.dll","GdiPlus.dll","dbgcore.dll","thumbcache.dll","ktmw32.dll","ksuser.dll","cscapi.dll","wdmaud.drv","ntshrui.dll","midimap.dll","msacm32.dll","msacm32.drv","PhotoMetadataHandler.dll","ondemandconnroutehelper.dll","explorerframe.dll","dataexchange.dll","oleacc.dll","Windows.Storage.Search.dll","wpnapps.dll","StructuredQuery.dll","directmanipulation.dll","textinputframework.dll","msxml6.dll","TextShaping.dll","Bcp47Langs.dll","Windows.Globalization.dll","Windows.UI.Immersive.dll","windowsudk.shellcommon.dll","Windows.Security.Integrity.dll","davclnt.dll","ntlanman.dll","EhStorAPI.dll","drprov.dll","p9np.dll","comctl32.dll","netapi32.dll","twinapi.dll","cldapi.dll","srvcli.dll","urlmon.dll","edputil.dll","AudioSes.dll","Windows.FileExplorer.Common.dll","BCP47mrm.dll","Windows.UI.dll","MrmCoreR.dll","OneCoreCommonProxyStub.dll","wininet.dll","DevDispItemProvider.dll","iertutil.dll","mpr.dll","MMDevAPI.dll","Windows.StateRepositoryPS.dll","mscms.dll","OneCoreUAPCommonProxyStub.dll","twinapi.appcore.dll","actxprxy.dll","windows.staterepositoryclient.dll","Windows.System.Launcher.dll","CoreUIComponents.dll","directxdatabasehelper.dll","windows.staterepositorycore.dll","xmllite.dll","odbc32.dll","nlansp_c.dll","winrnr.dll","pnrpnsp.dll","NapiNSP.dll","wsock32.dll","DWrite.dll","dcomp.dll","winmm.dll","CoreMessaging.dll","mlang.dll","FWPUCLNT.DLL","apphelp.dll","avrt.dll","PortableDeviceApi.dll","wshbth.dll","version.dll","wkscli.dll","PortableDeviceTypes.dll","winhttp.dll","rasadhlp.dll","dhcpcsvc.dll","dhcpcsvc6.DLL","msvcp110_win.dll","policymanager.dll","samcli.dll","WindowsCodecs.dll","uxtheme.dll","dxgi.dll","dwmapi.dll","winnsi.dll","DXCore.dll","resourcepolicyclient.dll","WinTypes.dll","windows.storage.dll","propsys.dll","dbghelp.dll","slc.dll","winsta.dll","netutils.dll","IPHLPAPI.DLL","dnsapi.dll","umpdc.dll","powrprof.dll","wtsapi32.dll","secur32.dll","kernel.appcore.dll","ntmarta.dll","sspicli.dll","mswsock.dll","userenv.dll","CRYPTBASE.DLL","msasn1.dll","devobj.dll","cfgmgr32.dll","dpapi.dll","ServicingCommon.dll","sxs.dll","profapi.dll","msvcp_win.dll","ucrtbase.dll","gdi32full.dll","bcryptPrimitives.dll","KERNELBASE.dll","wintrust.dll","bcrypt.dll","win32u.dll","crypt32.dll","ole32.dll","clbcatq.dll","rpcrt4.dll","user32.dll","shlwapi.dll","nsi.dll","oleaut32.dll","gdi32.dll","advapi32.dll","imm32.dll","msvcrt.dll","combase.dll","Wldap32.dll","shell32.dll","SHCore.dll","kernel32.dll","setupapi.dll","psapi.dll","coml2.dll","sechost.dll","msctf.dll","ws2_32.dll","ntdll.dll"],"Microsoft Windows Software Compatibility Publisher":["msvcp140.dll","VCRUNTIME140_1.dll","VCRUNTIME140.dll"],"Mozilla Corporation":["thunderbird.exe","rnp.dll","gkcodecs.dll","freebl3.dll","nss3.dll","mozglue.dll","nssckbi.dll","softokn3.dll","lgpllibs.dll","xul.dll"],"PARAMOUNT SOFTWARE UK LIMITED":["RShellEx.dll"]} Notes: Has dual GPUs. 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RSVP TCPv6 Service Provider : 2 : 23 : 1 : 6 : 0x22066 : 0x8 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll :  : 9d60a9e0-337a-11d0-bd88-0000c082e69a 
RSVP TCP Service Provider : 2 : 2 : 1 : 6 : 0x22066 : 0x8 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll :  : 9d60a9e0-337a-11d0-bd88-0000c082e69a 
RSVP UDPv6 Service Provider : 2 : 23 : 2 : 17 : 0x22609 : 0x8 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll :  : 9d60a9e0-337a-11d0-bd88-0000c082e69a 
RSVP UDP Service Provider : 2 : 2 : 2 : 17 : 0x22609 : 0x8 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll :  : 9d60a9e0-337a-11d0-bd88-0000c082e69a 
AF_UNIX : 2 : 1 : 1 : 0 : 0x20026 : 0x8 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll :  : a00943d9-9c2e-4633-9b59-0057a3160994 
MSAFD L2CAP [Bluetooth] : 2 : 32 : 1 : 256 : 0x20006 : 0x8 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll :  : 9fc48064-7298-43e4-b7bd-181f2089792a 
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useragent_locale: en-US This report also contains technical information about the state of the application when it crashed.

Dear,

I get a daily mail from my solar panel (convertor) supplier with my daily (solar) energy production profile. This mail gets 'labeled' as a potential scam by Thunderbird systematically. I'm 100% confident these mails are not scams...

Of course, I could just uncheck the scam detection flag in the settings, but I do appreciate the extra protection this detection offers!

Your site says litteraly: "Why does Thunderbird tell me that a legitimate message is a scam? Thunderbird's detection algorithm isn't perfect and, unlike its spam filter, does not learn or adapt based on your email flags. ..."

Could the detection algorithm not be changed, so that it learns? Or so that, if the user has unflagged mails, it no longer flags similar (almost identical) mails?

Thanks (wholehartedly!) for Thunderbird. And for your attention, of course... Marc Claes

Dear friends. I have bee using portable version of Thunderbird for years on my pendrive. I have a need of using it on Windows 10 32bit and Windows 64bit alternately. And I never had any problems. Thunderbird portable was first configured on Windows 10 32bit system and also used on the 64bit one. Last version of Thunderbird portable working fine on both machines was 115.13.0. But after several updates downloaded automatically my Thunderbird 64bit portable is no longer compatible with 32bit Windows. Message on 32bit system is: "You are trying tp use an older profile" or something like that. Fortunately I have a backup of my Thunderbird, I turned all updates off and still can use 115.13.0 on both 32 and 64 bit systems. But I know that I need to update Thunderbird regularly for security reasons. How can I resolve this problem? After any update in my 64bit OS Thunderbird is no longer operational on 32bit.

Thank you for your help in advance.

Best regards Vlad

I cannot view previously opened emails or their attachments, Inbox only. I can still read sent messages and the attachment. If I receive a new message I can view it and its attachment, I have some old emails that I haven't opened and if I open them I can view them. It is just previously opened emails. Did I click on something by mistake? Or is this system problem?

Tbird 128.1.0esr (64-bit), Windows 10 64 bit

When forwarding an email, the background colour of the forwarded email is used for the background colour of my explanatory email above the forward so this changes from white to the background colour of the forwarded email. It also changes the indent to jam new text in my email against the page edge. This also happens in troubleshooting mode.

This does not happen with a reply.

I received a message that Thunderbird needed to archive my Emails, there were too many. I did it, now when I go to the older Emails there is nothing there. The Email is blank, some have strange letters and numbers that do not make sense. Could please tell me what happened to the content of the Emails? Thanks

The certificate for this server, pop3.autome.jp, is invalid. Do not proceed as someone may be attempting to spoof this server.

Can't receive mail due to the above error please show me how to fix it I have tried many ways but still can't receive mail