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Since starting my Win 10 Pro computer today, Thunderbird 115.4.2 (64-bit) has been "dead in the water". When it's launched, it posts the customary "Downloading Message 1 of [N]" status report, but then hangs right there, takes 3 or 4 minutes even to (re-)populate the tabs and panes that had been open, doesn't get past the alleged first new msg even in 15 or 20 minutes. When it does populate the Inbox pane, it shows no messages newer than last night just before shutdown. Very sluggish response to cursor, too: for ex. 30 seconds from clicking on a msg title in the Inbox pane to displaying that msg, even longer to bring up Help/About (with "Not Responding" shown in its title bar.)

  I get my mail through gmail's IMAP server but prefer to use Tbird's interface . Thinking there might be something evil about the first msg that was waiting to be downloaded, I used gmail's web interface to review everything new since last night, deleted several msgs that had attachments, then started Tbird again.  No change.  Can't even get Tbird into the "Work offline" state because it attempts download-of-new-msgs immediately after being started.
  The only consistently effective way I have found to STOP the hung Tbird is through (Classic) Task Manager's "Processes" list, which usually shows five or six "thunderbird.exe" instances.  After selecting whichever has the largest memory allocation I click on "End Process."
  This all "feels like" a bollixed internal state.  Does Tbird store internal-state information in its own file, or is it buried in the Registry?   If I attempt restoration from a backup, which files are needed; or is that unwise?
 I see there is a mid-April update available to 115.10; would installing it reset current messed-up internal state, or will that already messy situation prevent the update?   Is there any risk of losing my Inbox, Sent, etc contents?

Thanks!!!

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I am currently using T-Bird 115.11 on Windows 10. Not that it matters much, because I have had this problem continually for years with various editions of Thunderbird on Win7 as well. Often when I open Thunderbird, I discover it has created hundreds and even thousands (today 65,000) duplicates of emails in various mailboxes. This has nothing to do with downloading. The emails in question were downloaded weeks or even months ago, and I havev't accessed them. Another problem is that Thunderbird creates emails dated in 1970, even before anyone thought of the internet, let alone PCs or emails. Why is this happening? How can I prevent it?

Thunderbird frequently stops retrieving emails for one of my accounts. I can still send them, but I don't receive them. I have to restart my computer for it to do so again, which generally lasts for a couple of days.

I'm using Version 115.11.0.

After making some alterations to google account to use phone for credit card use. I started my Thunderbird email client to deal with my mail. i received email as normal and was able to delete unrequired mail as required. However those I wanted to file and place copies in local boxes no longer worked. I instead go a notice saying sign in with Google failed 400 error.(cannot process request malformed)

Hi everyone,

I have a problem with my T-Online account.

Thunderbird ESR 115.11.0

Windows 11

IMAP

As soon as I open Thunderbird, all 8400 mails in the account are deleted.

Only the mails from yesterday and today are still there. The account also works - sending and receiving.

Other accounts (Gmail and Strato ) are ok.

Have copied an offline backup of the account to TB - as soon as I go online the mails are deleted again.

Copying and moving the mails offline to a local folder does not work either.

TB first tries to establish a connection to the server - which of course doesn't work offline.

Would hate to reinstall as there are a lot of local folders.

I'm at a bit of a loss - thanks for your help

Thunderbird seems to be hung up in a circular reference. It continues to download 1 of 2 and 2 of 2 repetitively, nonstop. This is continues process without ceasing. It seems be slowing do the whole system.

For some reason now, every time I go to type a response to an e-mail, the program loads hundreds of lines of text below my earlier sent message. Need help as to how to fix this problem ?

upgraded to Windows 11 , and thunderbird has not worked since then !

I am a Senior person who needs to speak with a real person.

PLEASE call me in Sydney Australia, or send me a local telephone number of someone who can help me !

Hi, for some time now (around a month), after a couple of days using Thunderbird, I can not load new messages, can not send new messages, and it basically is nonfunctional. The blue bar down right shows an active process that never ends (for example, "sending message"). All menus and software as a whole are still operating, and there is no crash on hang, but every attempt to load my emails or send data ends with endless waiting (no errors whatsoever). When I try to exit the application, it closes down, but a process is listed in Task Manager. When I kill the process manually and try to start the software again, nothing starts (a new process appears in the task manager), but the software never opens a window or something. Only a full computer restart helps, and everything works again for 1-2 days. I have disabled all extensions and tried even troubleshoot mode. No crash reports...

Hello

I have a bizarre issue with attachments.

I open all attachments in their respective programs rather than preview within Thunderbird itself (I have also tried opening in preview but I get exactly the same problem).

When I receive an email with attachments, mainly Word, Excel or PDF docs, I click to open the attachment but nothing happens. If I save the attachments to my computer and try to open it says the attachment is empty or corrupt.

But, if I click to forward the email, I can then open the attachments as normal by clicking on them in the draft email and also then save them to the computer and they open as normal.

I am running the latest version - 115.10.1 (64-bit) and I have noticed this issue for about the last week or so. Otherwise everything seems to work as normal.

Any ideas on what is going on or ways to change this.

Thanks in advance

using 115.10.1 for emails... each day there are plenty so i pile them up into one place until the folder reaches a size or a date and then we start over. yesterday, the pc updated and almost immediately the search was gone. i would type abc on the search bar and it would take for ever to scan through the messages. then i would click on the email i wanted but something else would open up in the message pane... https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/may-14-2024-kb5037768-os-builds-19044-4412-and-19045-4412-cb676101-1641-4a6c-b512-8b277606c6e3 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb5034441-windows-recovery-environment-update-for-windows-10-version-21h2-and-22h2-january-9-2024-62c04204-aaa5-4fee-a02a-2fdea17075a8

today, i guess, it crashed completely . it started by firing of a warning that not enough space is provided which was not true, then it downloaded 10 messages at once... after a while, the message pane was lost. you click on an email and nothing. it selects it but nothing shows up. blank screen. double click, also opens a new blank tab. fearing a totally corrupt database or even a re-install i pressed repair on the folder. took ages. now, though, i have the profile folder in my PC intact, but TB refuses to load it. i only see the 20 emails i got lately. like starting a new profile all over again...

I've had Thunderbird running for a few years now without any issue. Last week I upgraded from Ubuntu 22.04 to 24.04 and ever since that I've been having problems on Thunderbird sending email.

I can receive mails fine but if I try to send emails from any account I get "Sending of the message failed"

I've for 2 Outlook.com accounts and one gmail.com account and all give issues.

GMail I'm using: smtp.gmail.com Port 465 SSL/TLS OAuth2

Outlook: smtp-mail.outlook.com Port: 587 StartTLS Auth: Normal Password.

These settings have worked fine before the upgrade so think there is something broken my TB.

I get a popup every day asking me to update to 115. I refuse to use it anymore after just about pulling my hair out for 3 weeks after 2 115 updates that totally screwed up my Thunderbird mails. Most were completely garbled, or some just disappeared. I followed the solutions in the forums here, but no dice. Since I reverted back to version 102, no problems. I just want to know how to get rid of the popup every day. I am not going to screw op my all in one again. My emails were fine on my phone. But I wasted countless hours trying to fix this mess & then just having to delete them.

I am getting numerous delays when sending messages to different recipients with the following response. All the delayed messages refer to remote server aliblezz@tnadex.com.

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent has not yet been delivered to one or more of its recipients after more than 24 hours on the queue on instance-us-central1-32wd.prod.antispam.mailspamprotection.com.

The message identifier is: 1s7qEx-0000000GzmZ-1gPm The date of the message is: 17 May 2024 15:34:44 +1000 The subject of the message is: Your Shipment tracking Number

The address to which the message has not yet been delivered is:

 aliblezz@yandex.com
   Delay reason: H=mx.yandex.ru [77.88.21.249]: SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<aliblezz@yandex.com>:
   450 4.2.1 The recipient has exceeded message ra

No action is required on your part. Delivery attempts will continue for some time, and this warning may be repeated at intervals if the message remains undelivered. Eventually the mail delivery software will give up, and when that happens, the message will be returned to you.

Reporting-MTA: dns; instance-us-central1-32wd.prod.antispam.mailspamprotection.com

Action: delayed Final-Recipient: rfc822;aliblezz@yandex.com Status: 4.0.0

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Hello everybody, since three days, I experience my thunderbird crashing whenever I try to save, for exampe, an Email-attachment. It happens to all my accounts, and it happens whenever a command results in opening a window for saving something, such as said attachment. It also crashes in safe mode. Until today, I had the "new" version of thunderbird already (since ca. 2 weeks), today, I updated to the most recent Build. Also, my PC is up to date. When the problem first appeared, nothing had been changed to the system.

Here's the detailed content of the crash report:

BuildID: 20240119095007 CrashTime: 1707916573 InstallTime: 1707914461 ModuleSignatureInfo: {"Microsoft Corporation":["msvcp140.dll","VCRUNTIME140.dll"],"Microsoft Windows":["CoreMessaging.dll","Windows.Storage.Search.dll","TextShaping.dll","StructuredQuery.dll","vaultcli.dll","dui70.dll","OneCoreUAPCommonProxyStub.dll","mssprxy.dll","OneCoreCommonProxyStub.dll","msvcp110_win.dll","Windows.System.Launcher.dll","explorerframe.dll","DevDispItemProvider.dll","tiptsf.dll","duser.dll","thumbcache.dll","policymanager.dll","ntshrui.dll","linkinfo.dll","NetworkExplorer.dll","globinputhost.dll","windows.staterepositorycore.dll","Windows.StateRepositoryPS.dll","Windows.Security.Integrity.dll","avrt.dll","GdiPlus.dll","directmanipulation.dll","twinapi.dll","Windows.Globalization.dll","DWrite.dll","mscms.dll","Windows.UI.Immersive.dll","Windows.UI.dll","dxgi.dll","xmllite.dll","wscapi.dll","dcomp.dll","textinputframework.dll","twinapi.appcore.dll","dataexchange.dll","directxdatabasehelper.dll","nlansp_c.dll","wshbth.dll","winrnr.dll","pnrpnsp.dll","NapiNSP.dll","msimg32.dll","DXCore.dll","dwmapi.dll","MMDevAPI.dll","AudioSes.dll","oleacc.dll","usp10.dll","slc.dll","webauthn.dll","Bcp47Langs.dll","sxs.dll","uxtheme.dll","npmproxy.dll","netprofm.dll","FWPUCLNT.DLL","dbgcore.dll","gpapi.dll","comctl32.dll","rsaenh.dll","WindowsCodecs.dll","winnsi.dll","ondemandconnroutehelper.dll","mpr.dll","cscapi.dll","cryptsp.dll","cldapi.dll","iertutil.dll","urlmon.dll","edputil.dll","windows.staterepositoryclient.dll","ktmw32.dll","wsock32.dll","rasadhlp.dll","mswsock.dll","dnsapi.dll","dhcpcsvc.dll","atlthunk.dll","dhcpcsvc6.DLL","CRYPTBASE.DLL","Windows.FileExplorer.Common.dll","propsys.dll","dbghelp.dll","devobj.dll","apphelp.dll","ntmarta.dll","srvcli.dll","profapi.dll","kernel.appcore.dll","wkscli.dll","netutils.dll","winsta.dll","WinTypes.dll","windows.storage.dll","msasn1.dll","sspicli.dll","wininet.dll","winmm.dll","userenv.dll","wtsapi32.dll","winhttp.dll","version.dll","cfgmgr32.dll","IPHLPAPI.DLL","psapi.dll","oleaut32.dll","shell32.dll","nsi.dll","bcryptPrimitives.dll","KERNELBASE.dll","crypt32.dll","msctf.dll","coml2.dll","combase.dll","sechost.dll","win32u.dll","gdi32full.dll","gdi32.dll","msvcp_win.dll","shlwapi.dll","kernel32.dll","bcrypt.dll","setupapi.dll","ws2_32.dll","clbcatq.dll","msvcrt.dll","ole32.dll","rpcrt4.dll","user32.dll","comdlg32.dll","advapi32.dll","ucrtbase.dll","wintrust.dll","imm32.dll","SHCore.dll","ntdll.dll","davclnt.dll","ntlanman.dll","drprov.dll","p9np.dll","dlnashext.dll","msftedit.dll","uiautomationcore.dll","windowsudk.shellcommon.dll","CoreUIComponents.dll","PlayToDevice.dll","wpdshext.dll","OneCoreCommonProxyStub.dll","dxgi.dll","directxdatabasehelper.dll","KBDGR.DLL"],"Mozilla Corporation":["thunderbird.exe","rnp.dll","xul.dll","nss3.dll","nssckbi.dll","freebl3.dll","mozglue.dll","softokn3.dll","lgpllibs.dll"]} ProductID: {3550f703-e582-4d05-9a08-453d09bdfdc6} ProductName: Thunderbird ReleaseChannel: release StartupTime: 1707915025 SubmittedFrom: Client Throttleable: 1 URL: UptimeTS: 1548.0 Vendor: Version: 115.7.0 WindowsErrorReporting: 1

I hope somebody can make sense of it. Thank you!

I'm going to ask this question again. Has anyone seen this? If so, what does it mean? When attaching a pdf or other file to an email, I can't open it to check it before sending.

C:\Users\***\Desktop\*****.pdf could not be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist. Change the association in your preferences.

What is a helper application and how do I fix this?

Thank you

My Thunderbird 115.10.2 (64 bit) is lately running very slowly. Message content takes forever to show. Sometimes don't show at all. Sent messages take 20s to save.

I was thinking that my files were simply too large, so I erase everything before 2022-01-01. Where we are now:

  Inbox            13,662 messages 3.0 gb
  All Mail         22,722 messages 5.8 gb
  Sent mail       5,175 messages  1.2 gb
  Important    13,093 messages  3.1 gb
  Other             4,700 messages (approx)

Questions: 1. Can I delete the "Important" messages, thereby perhaps freeing up 3.1 gb? In which case how do I do that?

2. Does this look like too many messages for TB? It's two and a half years worth. Like to keep it, but not at the expense of making the system so slow.

I have removed the databases twice and started with a new instance of TB, which is where we are now.

Thanks for any suggestions!

jrc

Whenever i use quick filter to look for email. Thunderbird would tank and massively slow down. Is this common problem or is it just me. Sometimes the performance hit also bleed outside the app and slow the entire system.