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An FAQ about how our weekly common issues collection works
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Cww

Over the past month, I've been working on gathering support issues so that they can get followup and we can track issues that occur often and figure out workarounds/fixes or get knowledge base articles written.

Here's the system that we'll be implementing. A lot of it is in progress and/or in the works, so pardon our dust.

Each week, we'll take a sampling of questions posted to the forums and gather feedback from LiveChat. From this sampling we'll identify the issues that are occurring frequently. We're looking for cases where the symptoms are specific enough to have only one cause or a small number of causes.

Each issue gets its own thread in this contributors forum, detailing as much as we can gather, including:

  1. A description of the problem and its symptoms
  2. A status (details below) and the name of the lead.
  3. A list of links to forum threads/Hendrix posts/livechat dumps/bug reports where users have reported this.
  4. Workarounds/fixes (including a note if it's been verified to work)
  5. Information needed. This section is important in that as we're trying to find the cause of the issue, we may have some questions that we'd like all users experiencing them to answer. # Other comments.

The goal is to collect all the information we can on each issue in one place. At some point, users might be able to post to these threads also, so we can ask them if they have more information to supply it in an issue thread.

Frequently Asked Questions

What are the statuses?
In order to keep track of progress, each issue will have a status. Statuses are one of the following:

  • Needs lead (Someone should take the lead on this)
  • Needs details (Due to lack of user feedback, specifics or an inability to reproduce, issue has been tabled until a very helpful user steps forward or enough cases are coming in that we can aggregate more specifics)
  • Under investigation (QA should try to reproduce if possible/find a cause, Support should try to get more details about this issue from users; everyone report to the lead)
  • Pending fix OR Needs documentation (Outside/responsible parties have been contacted or a fix is in the works OR assigned lead should write a KB article OR otherwise inform relevant parties on how to address this issue)
  • Fixed, tracking (Kept on the list for a few weeks to see if numbers or frequency drop after the fix is pushed/article is applied, if any subsequent variations of this issue are found.)
  • No action needed (Specific circumstances may suggest that an issue will resolve itself shortly or that neither further specifics nor further action will help the situation — for example, people complaining about the old EULA)

What is a "lead" and what would a lead be responsible for?
A lead is responsible for keeping up with the developments on the issue. That includes following up with users who have been reporting it to make sure details are gathered; working with QA to figure out a workaround or a cause; and reporting on the progress and what's been found so everyone is up to date.

Lastly, if the issue needs to be documented in the knowledge base, the lead would be in charge of either writing the article or finding someone to write it.

If I lead, will I have help?
Absolutely! You're not expected to be the only one working on this issue, merely the person whom all the information flows through. Other contributors, if they see reports of your issue, will bring them to your attention. You're not responsible for reading every forum thread, hendrix post or bug report just to find the ones that apply to you. You'll have the full backing of people from across Mozilla such as in QA to help reproduce an issue or test workarounds. You'll also find that some users are invaluable and will love to help in any way they can with their issue. If you don't know what information to ask users for, devs are great at knowing the innards of Firefox and knowing what is important or relevant. If you need help finding someone to help with something, just ask! There's a lot of collective knowledge and we're sure that someone (djst, zzxc, cilias, nkoth, etc) will be able to point you to someone helpful.

Leading the investigation of an issue is a great way to get involved in the greater Mozilla community.

What can I do to take part if I'm not the lead?
Everything! We'll be keeping Weekly common issues up to date with the issues we're tracking right now. Even if you're not the lead on one, if you see a report of it or have a few minutes to test or triage, make sure you post in the relevant thread. If you're on LiveChat or in the forums and you see a case of an issue, find the thread and make sure that you ask for the information that is requested and post the answers to the thread or point the user to the thread. If you figure out a workaround, post it.

What if I'm not working with users/not a Sumo contributor?
QA and devs are needed also. If you find bug reports, please help by linking them to issues. Also, if you have more knowledge about an issue, please share. If there's any information that we could collect to help figure out an issue, posting it will make sure it's visible.

What if I have a new issue that deserves mention?
We're still figuring that part out. For now, send Cww a message on IRC or (better) by e-mail at cwwmozilla (at) gmail and he'll keep abreast of it and probably include it in with the next update (Monday mornings). The more information you can provide the better. If the issue is really general (Firefox crashes), we probably won't include it because there are dozens of underlying causes. However, if the issue is highly specific and especially if it's new (Firefox crashes when opening PDFs directly but downloads them fine) and affecting a large number of users, chances are good that it'll make it into the next update.

I have suggestions/feedback about this!
Please share it with us! We really want to know how we can make this better.



Firefox has become so slow in loading web pages that it's like I'm back in the dial-up days. It might take up to a minute just to load the main Google page. I compared it to Safari to see if it was indeed the browser and not just a slowdown with the provider. Safari loaded the same pages about 10 times as fast. FTP seems at its normal speed and a bandwidth speed check shows everything running as it should.



It would be a help to forum contributors if you could make this a "sticky" topic for easy reference. Right now I don't see any "Issues" topics listed in the Contributors forum at at all, even though there are posts this week (Nov 3 and Nov 4) in these topics linked from Weekly common issues:

It wouldn't be such a problem except that there seems to be a (temporary?) forum bug which prevents older topics from being listed, even though there are current posts, as Chris mentioned here.



I have a problem that started about 2 weeks ago. I can't remember if there was a Firefox update or not, but I've been having problems with pages constantly reloading. Like trying to load videos sometimes and then it will just refresh all of a sudden and will continue to do that 4 or 5 times. I'm having trouble opening PDF files. None of these problems occurred previously.



Having the same problem since I downloaded the new firefox version it takes a minute or more to download pages



FF3.0.4 = 45 seconds to load home page ...
Chrome = 5 seconds to load same page ...
Started about a week ago ... about 12/5/08 ...
Removed most add-ons ... no help ...
Plus, new home page tabs open every few minutes ...
Plus, after 15 minutes FF gets really slow ...
Hangs for about a minute every two minutes ...
All this is new since 12/5/08 ...
Ideas?
Thanks ...



The issue I was tracking seems to no longer have a "Post new message" form, so I'm posting it here in response to: " * Firefox Support/Forums/Contributors/Issue: Slow loading pages

The short story is, I upgraded to 3.0.4 (FF) and started experiencing slow response time when loading a new page, or just clicking a tab that had been opened for a while but not viewed. The scenario seemed quite random, I couldn't predict when it would happen, but the action was always the same. The entire system (XP) would grind to a halt, the hourglass would display, and the hard disk activity light would stay fully active for 45-75 seconds, then it would take a short, few millisecond breather, update the page a bit, then continue on with the disk activity for another 20 seconds or so. Sometimes I could be working in another applications such as MS Word and the FF browser would do some update to a page and I would get the same result, I would have to wait for it to finish. I reinstalled FF to no avail. I then did all the usual virus scans, did a disk defrag (which somewhat did speed things up, but that was probably because the disk performance was better, hence whatever was using it could finish quicker) and tried turning off various extensions and add-ons. Oddly, I ran an identity theft tool last night (Idendity Patrol, V2.0) and it picked up a few malware/spyware things that nothing else caught. FF 3.0.4 performance is now as it should be. Time will tell if it stays that way.
I'm very careful about what I download and keep a reasonably close eye on the system, and I can say that the problem started very close to when I did the 3.0.4 upgrade. Is it possible that there is a malware/spyware that is sneaking in via the upgrade? I ask this because I am aware of a few cased in the commercial world recently where products actually shipped with viruses in them, two digital picture frames come to mind and there were others. These are not products one would associate with spreading viruses, nor would FF necessarily be suspect normally, but I just don't want to eliminate any possible "stones" to look under. I've been very happy with FF over the years and appreciate all the hard work that goes into making it the finest browser on the Web. I see rants constantly about this or that, I want to be constructive if I can. Maybe if a few others take a closer look at their systems they can uncover something that is very subtle and very pervasive that is causing all this slowdown. It is particularly frustrating because if does not seem to affect IE, as far as I can tell.
Thanks
Dennis



Issue: Slow loading pages

Its not clear how we add comments to the thread. So I'll try here.

I had this problem too: some pages never loaded (or took forever) in FF while IE was able to load the same page (albeit slow at times).

Turns out my router was going bad. If I bypassed the router, the problem went away. And replacing the router fixed the problem.

If you are having a problem like this, you might try a direct connect from your computer to your broadband modem (of course, the modem might be the problem as could the computer's Ethernet card ).

The strange thing is that even with the problem router, IE was able to load the pages and FF could not. Perhaps there is a problem somewhere in the FF error recovery. Perhaps it is waiting too long before asking for a resend. These are just wild guesses. But hopefully it will help someone see into the problem.

I should have kept my old problem router and offered it here to a developer willing to work on the problem. But I threw it out before I thought of that. Maybe another reader will do so.

Hope this helps.
Rob



Regarding issue # 454532, "Printing random characters"...

Suggested Work-around

I have been seeing this problem at home and work. After searching extensively, I found a suggestion that worked. Instead of printing directly, I first entered Print Preview and then printed. This worked.

I haven't tried it with everything but the few pages I've had problems with, this has solved the issue.

Found this using Google and searching for "firefox printing issues, which led me to the following link:

http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.feedback.firefox/browse_thread/thread/967b54ac9c53a631



Issue: Slow loading pages

Same remark as Rob_XXYY
"Its not clear how we add comments to the thread. So I'll try here." I did not see where to add my input in the thread itself
http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_threshold=0&comments_parentId=183771&comments_offset=0&comments_per_page=20&thread_style=commentStyle_plain

I agree with the description of the symptoms: FF *suddenly* becomes slow to the point of never loading the pages, whereas Safari does it as usual. Loading speed is normal on local html pages. Note: CPU usage is low, memory usage low. Weird : one hour before FF worked just fine. There was no update whatsoever in the meantime. I've tried: disabling *all* extensions, deactivating javascript, restarting the computer, getting back a older version through Time Machine ... to no avail.

I want to mention that the same thing happened a couple of month ago, and the problem suddenly vanished without any intervention. Really weird.

Solution: (not satisfactory though)
Quit FF and trash (or move) the user profile (on mac os x, the folder named Firefox in
Home/Library/Application Support
Restart FF and it runs smoothly as usual (creates a new profile). If you reinstall the previous profile, slowness returns. Stranger still: when I replace the profile by an older backup, slowness returns ...

What's going on ?

config : FF 3.0.5 on macbook air os 10.5.6

extension list (though now all disabled)
Adblock 0.5.3.043
Adblock Filterset Updater 0.3.1.3
Autofill forms 0.9.5.2
Cooliris 1.9.1
Coscripter 1.700 (disabled)
Delicious bookmarks 2.1.018
DictionarySearch 3.0.0 (disabled)
Download statusbar 0.9.6.3
Firefox PDF plugin for mac osx 1.0.1
Full Fullscreen 3.1 (disabled)
Fuul screen 0.7 (disabled)
Google Gears 0.5.4.2
Greasemonkey 0.8.20080609.0
Hyperwords 5.0.2 (disabled)
Image zoom 0.3.1 (disabled)
Openbook 2.0.1.1 (disabled)
Sage 1.4.2 (disabled)
Secure Login 0.9.3
Tab mix plus 0.3.7.3
Ubiquity 0.1.5

I could give the about:config network.* list but it is somewhat long. Is it really needed ?

Thanks



I support my family's computers...myself, dad, three brothers and a sister plus lots of my Dad's (86 year old) friends. I have always endorsed firefox as a browser. Of late, no matter whose computer I am on, the startup of Firefox has been so slow as to have me hit the shortcut button numbers of times thinking that I hit it wrong, only to sit there for at least a minute/s and then have to deal with the number of windows opened by my mouse clicks. Something is wrong... I wish I had a solution, but I only have a problem... I note that I am not alone... Nubi



after FF3 installed itself, the browser is slow and frustrating. I held off for sooo long to stay with v.2, now by default, FF3 was installed. It's costing my time, frustration and basically insulted me a long time supporter of the product! Please, where is a fix?



Quarantine

Frustrated, this is not the support forum, please ask your question here - https://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum.php?forumId=1



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